Discussion:
XKCD - how far you have fallen
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Big Bad Bob
2020-09-12 21:49:26 UTC
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This is (quite) a bit O.T. except that I'm pretty sure that XKCD's
audience is well represented in these newsgroups...

I want to draw your attention to it. If you thnk I'm just being a
troll, then don't "feed" me. I'm busy working and don't have time for
flame wars.


The author of XKCD has, in my opinion, COMMITTED AN EGREGIOUS VIOLATION
OF BASIC INTELLIGENCE. Normally XKCD is a witty, intelligent,
IT-related online comic that gives us all a good laugh. This is one of
my favorites.

https://xkcd.com/936/

And recently, I followed such a link to an XKCD comic from an online
forum, only to my HORROR to have *THAT* waved in my face!

If you go to that link, and you do NOT see it, you will NOT understand.
And you may not want to continue reading this... (but go ahead anyway,
at your own peril)


It is an OBVIOUS FAILURE of the XKCD author to recognize that a
particular group, who's initials are "B.L.M.", is nothing LESS than a
(well funded) MOB of COMMUNIST REBELS trying to DESTROY FREEDOM by
RIOTING, LOOTING, MURDERING, and blaming POLICE and REPUBLICANS
(especially Donald Trump) for it, while SIMULTANEOUSLY trying to
MANIPULATE people through distortions of truth and outright LIES about
what little remaining racism exists in the world, by *BEING* *RACIST*
about it.

They are LYING, MANIPULATIVE, SCHEMING *RACIST* BOLSHEVIKS of the WORST
KIND.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bolshevik
(a history lesson for those educated after 1990)

What, you don't believe the *RACIST* part? Well substitute ANYTHING but
'black' into "Black Lives Matter', wear it on a T shirt or put it on a
sign, and watch what happens. Yeah. It's *RACIST*. Becaue "equal
treatment" does NOT apply with this MOB _OR_ their followers/supporters!

And *EVERY* *REFERENCE* *TO* *THEIR* *STUPID* *SLOGAN* is IN SUPPORT OF
THEIR **FUCKING** **COMMUNIST** **BULLSHIT**!!! That includes the
COMMUNISM, the RIOTING, the LOOTING, the FLAGRANT DISREGARD FOR THE LAW
IN GENERAL, and so forth.

Do you REALLY want to live in a world with *THEM* *IN* *CHARGE*???

Then, STOP! SUPPORTING! THOSE! ASSHOLES!!!

(and vote for people who stand AGAINST them!!!)

Otherwise, you might find yourself on the WRONG SIDE of things, very
very very soon.


(in pre-emptive response: "OK, Moocher" "OK, Doomer" "OK, Commie")
--
(aka 'Bombastic Bob' in case you wondered)

'Feeling with my fingers, and thinking with my brain' - me

'your story is so touching, but it sounds just like a lie'
"Straighten up and fly right"
Dirk T. Verbeek
2020-09-13 09:04:25 UTC
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Post by Big Bad Bob
This is (quite) a bit O.T. except that I'm pretty sure that XKCD's
audience is well represented in these newsgroups...
The OT bit starts after this first sentence.

Although there are problems re. any lives that matter your ranting about
commies sets you up as an uneducated loony.
Think for just a second about /what/ was the original cause of the
demonstrations (before others started the riots).

And that's all I'm going to say on the subject.
Bobbie Sellers
2020-09-13 14:58:26 UTC
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Post by Dirk T. Verbeek
Post by Big Bad Bob
This is (quite) a bit O.T. except that I'm pretty sure that XKCD's
audience is well represented in these newsgroups...
The OT bit starts after this first sentence.
Although there are problems re. any lives that matter your ranting about
commies sets you up as an uneducated loony.
Think for just a second about /what/ was the original cause of the
demonstrations (before others started the riots).
And that's all I'm going to say on the subject.
Just filter out the idiots like the self-condemning Big Bad.

He objects to the Artist putting up a sensible slogan.

Which raises the question, How much do haters lives matter?
Strangely they matter too but we should shun them and excoriate
their twisted viewpoint. They were badly taught as children and
never examined their views in a rational way.

bliss
--
bliss dash SF 4 ever at dslextreme dot com
Big Bad Bob
2020-09-13 15:40:59 UTC
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 He objects to the Artist putting up a sensible slogan.
OK. How about if I say "WHITE lives matter" ? Can I do that?
notX
2020-09-13 16:55:15 UTC
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  He objects to the Artist putting up a sensible slogan.
OK.  How about if I say "WHITE lives matter" ?  Can I do that?
"white lives matter" sounds as bad as "black lives matter". No more and
no less racist.
Bobbie Sellers
2020-09-13 19:43:02 UTC
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Post by notX
  He objects to the Artist putting up a sensible slogan.
OK.  How about if I say "WHITE lives matter" ?  Can I do that?
"white lives matter" sounds as bad as "black lives matter". No more and
no less racist.
How many times have you been stopped for driving while white?

If you look at the San Francisco Sunday Chronicle today you will find
that in the City of Vallejo black and brown people are routinely
harassed by police officers often with very bad results for the people
stopped while going about their legitimate business.

I have been reading accounts in the newspapers for over 50
years in the San Francisco Bay Area and while the situation is bad
in Vallejo it is a weak echo of the police killings of black people
in Oakland over the years.

I am white by the way and I have been stopped while speeding
and various other offenses over my long life but more so when I was
younger. At no time did I feel my life to be threatened but I am
white. I have that irrevocable white privilege awarded to me at
birth. I have had several close black friends over the years and
they got no points for completion of higher education or for military
service. I still got respect from officials because I was white.

Now I said the haters lives matter because after all I
might be confused with one of those haters by strangers. All
lives matter even those of the birds and beasts I must eat to
survive. As a matter of fact that these lead healty lives
is very important to me. Trying to eat vegetarian leaves me
wishing I was dead. This is because of food sensitivities I
have developed over 80 years,

Killing kids with toy guns, killing unarmed people running
away from the scene of a traffic stop, kneeling on a man's neck!
For the sake of the law what does it take for the police to wise
up and change their very bad behavior. And murdering a Emergency
Medical Technician in her bed with 8 shots, shooting a man in the
back 7 times so that he likely will be paralyzed from the waist
down for the rest of his life is not law enforcement. It is
fear of the Black people male or female.

bliss -to whom Black Lives Matter
--
bliss dash SF 4 ever at dslextreme dot com
Chris Ahlstrom
2020-09-13 19:53:47 UTC
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Post by notX
  He objects to the Artist putting up a sensible slogan.
OK.  How about if I say "WHITE lives matter" ?  Can I do that?
"white lives matter" sounds as bad as "black lives matter". No more and
no less racist.
Nah, people think that black/white scenario is symmetrical in the U.S. It still
is not. "Whites" are still very much "dominant", even though there are some
"Whites" who have been trodden down by the system as well.

Not going to say much, this is not a simple situation.
--
Real computer scientists don't program in assembler. They don't write
in anything less portable than a number two pencil.
Paul
2020-09-13 23:53:18 UTC
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Post by notX
Post by Big Bad Bob
Post by Bobbie Sellers
He objects to the Artist putting up a sensible slogan.
OK. How about if I say "WHITE lives matter" ? Can I do that?
"white lives matter" sounds as bad as "black lives matter". No more and
no less racist.
Not when you're preferentially being gunned down by a policeman ?

Like, when you're not carrying a gun your own self ?

1) The police like to pull over black guys in cars.

2) The police are way too quick on the draw with their guns.
Someone has been training them to shoot first and ask
questions later, and that has a lot to do with the
difficulty of getting a conviction to stick.

The combination of the two makes for an ugly result.

*******

To give an example, a mental guy is on a transit bus, holding
a knife. He's not looking to take hostages. People just stream
off the bus, and the guy is oblivious. As far as I know, at
this point, the bus is empty or almost empty. Maybe one last person
getting off the bus.

They ask him to drop the knife. Well, the guy is mental. He's
not going to drop the knife, because he sees Satan or a dragon
or Soupy Sales. OK, so one officer steps on the bus from the
front, and fires maybe three shots. The guy is down now.

A second officer came in the back door of the bus. He
stands over the guy prone on the ground, and
*empties the entire clip in his Glock into the guy*.

A third officer then steps up, and fires his Taser at the guy.
You can't make this stuff up. The guy is dead twelve times over
at this point, and looks like a blood bank donation. But
Toby fires his Taser anyway. Must be "standard procedure".

The only thing missing, was a fourth officer to stand over
him and urinate on the corpse.

This stuff has to stop.

It was blindingly obvious from cellphone footage, that
the officers were showed up for the call, were scared shitless,
and didn't have a clue what they were going to do next.
Who needs people like that on the payroll ? The unarmed
citizens on the bus could have handled it better than
the officers.

*******

To give an example of the exact opposite...

Guy shows up at the Prime Ministers office with a long rifle,
driving a pickup. I think he might have broken down the gate
with the truck, and proceeded on foot.

Problem is, the Prime Minister and family aren't home.

The RCMP show up. Do they riddle the guy with a 50 cal for fun ?
Nope. They stay behind cover. A negotiator talks to him for
a few hours, convincing him he's not going anywhere. He
puts down the gun and is apprehended. That's how it's
supposed to work.

The police should never say "we don't have time for this".
That's where some of these poor responses come from.

Paul
Big Bad Bob
2020-09-14 23:18:34 UTC
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Post by notX
  He objects to the Artist putting up a sensible slogan.
OK.  How about if I say "WHITE lives matter" ?  Can I do that?
"white lives matter" sounds as bad as "black lives matter". No more and
no less racist.
exactly! [you win the "I get it" badge, and a clue-bat with which to
educate others]
Jimmy Johnson
2020-10-05 21:03:50 UTC
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Post by notX
Post by Big Bad Bob
Post by Bobbie Sellers
He objects to the Artist putting up a sensible slogan.
OK. How about if I say "WHITE lives matter" ? Can I do that?
"white lives matter" sounds as bad as "black lives matter". No more and
no less racist.
I like to believe that all lives matter, but what the "black lives
matter" people are saying is that no lives matter until black lives
matter and it makes sense in a very radical way, but people who are out
to hurt back people or any people, need to be dealt with in a radical way.
--
Jimmy Johnson

AntiX KDE5 - AMD A8-7600 - EXT4 at sda12
Registered Linux User #380263
red floyd
2020-10-05 22:01:11 UTC
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Post by Jimmy Johnson
Post by notX
  He objects to the Artist putting up a sensible slogan.
OK.  How about if I say "WHITE lives matter" ?  Can I do that?
"white lives matter" sounds as bad as "black lives matter". No more and
no less racist.
I like to believe that all lives matter, but what the "black lives
matter" people are saying is that no lives matter until black lives
matter and it makes sense in a very radical way, but people who are out
to hurt back people or any people, need to be dealt with in a radical way.
I look at it as, "Save the whales" doesn't mean "to hell with the
seals", but we need to pay special attention to what's happening
to the whales.

Similarly, BLM doesn't mean f*** the whites, but that we need to pay
extra attention to how the Black community is being treated.
Mike Easter
2020-10-05 22:26:33 UTC
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Post by red floyd
we need to pay
extra attention to how the Black community is being treated.
But, the black community /only/ needs to be treated AS politely as well
as assertively and as expectant of responsible behavior as any other
white, yellow, red, or blue community is being treated.

The black community doesn't get to be more 'in your face' and
disrespectful of authority and uncooperative and non-compliant than the
white yellow red or blue community.

The black community ie individual doesn't need to get some kind of
special treatment that allows it to be non-compliant and resistant
without some kind of assertive management of the non-compliance.

There are some difficult young black men out there as well as difficult
older black men and difficult young and old white and yellow and brown
men and women.
--
Mike Easter
Aragorn
2020-09-14 18:42:05 UTC
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Post by Big Bad Bob
 He objects to the Artist putting up a sensible slogan.
OK. How about if I say "WHITE lives matter" ? Can I do that?
Everyone has already long lost the plot on that one. In essence, it
should read "ALL lives matter", yes, but the fact that it says "Black
lives matter" is a RESPONSE TO AN UNJUST SITUATION, namely a situation
of systemic racism within the USA, and especially gratuitous police
violence against people of non-Caucasian ethnicity. So they chose the
name of their organization to reflect that clear and present injustice.
Don't ever forget what Dr. Martin Luther King died for in 1968.

As for your bigoted rant against socialism and communism, first of all,
you probably don't even understand what either of them really are,
because all you know about them comes from your indoctrination in
post-McCarthy's American Big Commie Scare. And secondly, I hate
capitalism and consumerism, and everything those two things have done to
this world — socially and environmentally — even more than you hate
those two things that you don't even understand.

And yet you don't see me ranting about them.
--
With respect,
= Aragorn =
Johnny
2020-09-14 19:22:15 UTC
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On Mon, 14 Sep 2020 20:42:05 +0200
Post by Aragorn
Post by Big Bad Bob
 He objects to the Artist putting up a sensible slogan.
OK. How about if I say "WHITE lives matter" ? Can I do that?
Everyone has already long lost the plot on that one. In essence, it
should read "ALL lives matter", yes, but the fact that it says "Black
lives matter" is a RESPONSE TO AN UNJUST SITUATION, namely a situation
of systemic racism within the USA, and especially gratuitous police
violence against people of non-Caucasian ethnicity. So they chose the
name of their organization to reflect that clear and present
injustice. Don't ever forget what Dr. Martin Luther King died for in
1968.
As for your bigoted rant against socialism and communism, first of
all, you probably don't even understand what either of them really
are, because all you know about them comes from your indoctrination in
post-McCarthy's American Big Commie Scare. And secondly, I hate
capitalism and consumerism, and everything those two things have done
to this world — socially and environmentally — even more than you hate
those two things that you don't even understand.
And yet you don't see me ranting about them.
Since you don't live in the US and experience daily life here, you
don't really know anything about it.

Black people have the same opportunity to get a good education and a
good job as white people. They also have the same opportunity to get
killed by a cop as white people, and it's caused by resisting arrest.
Almost all the people killed by cops recently resisted arrest. All
they had to do was allow the cops to handcuff them and put them in a
patrol car, and it would have been over, and no one would have been
hurt.

Systemic racism is a catchy little phrase that means nothing. It
doesn't exist.
Corvid
2020-09-14 20:02:04 UTC
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Post by Johnny
On Mon, 14 Sep 2020 20:42:05 +0200
Post by Aragorn
Post by Big Bad Bob
Post by Bobbie Sellers
He objects to the Artist putting up a sensible slogan.
OK. How about if I say "WHITE lives matter" ? Can I do that?
Everyone has already long lost the plot on that one. In essence, it
should read "ALL lives matter", yes, but the fact that it says "Black
lives matter" is a RESPONSE TO AN UNJUST SITUATION, namely a situation
of systemic racism within the USA, and especially gratuitous police
violence against people of non-Caucasian ethnicity. So they chose the
name of their organization to reflect that clear and present
injustice. Don't ever forget what Dr. Martin Luther King died for in
1968.
As for your bigoted rant against socialism and communism, first of
all, you probably don't even understand what either of them really
are, because all you know about them comes from your indoctrination in
post-McCarthy's American Big Commie Scare. And secondly, I hate
capitalism and consumerism, and everything those two things have done
to this world — socially and environmentally — even more than you hate
those two things that you don't even understand.
And yet you don't see me ranting about them.
Since you don't live in the US and experience daily life here, you
don't really know anything about it.
The Belgian sees it clearly.
Bobbie Sellers
2020-09-14 20:08:50 UTC
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Post by Johnny
On Mon, 14 Sep 2020 20:42:05 +0200
Post by Aragorn
Post by Big Bad Bob
 He objects to the Artist putting up a sensible slogan.
OK. How about if I say "WHITE lives matter" ? Can I do that?
Everyone has already long lost the plot on that one. In essence, it
should read "ALL lives matter", yes, but the fact that it says "Black
lives matter" is a RESPONSE TO AN UNJUST SITUATION, namely a situation
of systemic racism within the USA, and especially gratuitous police
violence against people of non-Caucasian ethnicity. So they chose the
name of their organization to reflect that clear and present
injustice. Don't ever forget what Dr. Martin Luther King died for in
1968.
As for your bigoted rant against socialism and communism, first of
all, you probably don't even understand what either of them really
are, because all you know about them comes from your indoctrination in
post-McCarthy's American Big Commie Scare. And secondly, I hate
capitalism and consumerism, and everything those two things have done
to this world — socially and environmentally — even more than you hate
those two things that you don't even understand.
And yet you don't see me ranting about them.
Since you don't live in the US and experience daily life here, you
don't really know anything about it.
Black people have the same opportunity to get a good education and a
good job as white people. They also have the same opportunity to get
killed by a cop as white people, and it's caused by resisting arrest.
Almost all the people killed by cops recently resisted arrest. All
they had to do was allow the cops to handcuff them and put them in a
patrol car, and it would have been over, and no one would have been
hurt.
Systemic racism is a catchy little phrase that means nothing. It
doesn't exist.
You have not been paying close attention have you?

8 shots fired into a darkened bedroom killed Breanna Taylor when
the police burst into her home in the middle of the night. She was
an EMT and the police had the wrong address of a drug operation.
She was an Emergency Medical Techician, a person very important
in this time of Covid-19

George Floyd's deliberate murder by a police office started this
whole recurrence of demonstrations. Can I stop by and kneel on your
neck for 8 or 9 minutes? It killed George and he was completely
under control and begging to be allowed to breathe, until he
died from lack of oxygen.
9 days ago Jacob Blake was shot 7 times in the back in
front of the car full of his children as he went to get
documents by a white policeman.

Daniel Prude was put in a spit hood and then smothered
by the police who held him on the ground.

You are not paying attention to the Real News as printed
in real newspapers and published via TV both commercial and Public
supported. Black children killed while playing with toy guns.

One of my Amiga Users Group friends, a artistic black
man with degrees died in a hospital because the right tests
had not been done and his aneurysm ruptured.
My roomie with abdominal pain to the ER, testing done
in an hour or two, she is white, and repair to a double
abdominal aneurysm saved her life. Black people and women
generally get poorer medical care and have for a long time
than white men.
She was lucky.

I live in San Francisco, have been white for 83 years
and never had the mistreatment I see inflicted casually on
black men and women nearly every day by racially biased
police.
Wake up before your preconceptions of the America
depicted in grade school kill you.

bliss
--
bliss dash SF 4 ever at dslextreme dot com
Johnny
2020-09-14 20:17:13 UTC
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On Mon, 14 Sep 2020 13:08:50 -0700
Post by Bobbie Sellers
Post by Johnny
On Mon, 14 Sep 2020 20:42:05 +0200
Post by Aragorn
Post by Big Bad Bob
 He objects to the Artist putting up a sensible slogan.
OK. How about if I say "WHITE lives matter" ? Can I do that?
Everyone has already long lost the plot on that one. In essence,
it should read "ALL lives matter", yes, but the fact that it says
"Black lives matter" is a RESPONSE TO AN UNJUST SITUATION, namely
a situation of systemic racism within the USA, and especially
gratuitous police violence against people of non-Caucasian
ethnicity. So they chose the name of their organization to reflect
that clear and present injustice. Don't ever forget what Dr.
Martin Luther King died for in 1968.
As for your bigoted rant against socialism and communism, first of
all, you probably don't even understand what either of them really
are, because all you know about them comes from your
indoctrination in post-McCarthy's American Big Commie Scare. And
secondly, I hate capitalism and consumerism, and everything those
two things have done to this world — socially and environmentally
— even more than you hate those two things that you don't even
understand.
And yet you don't see me ranting about them.
Since you don't live in the US and experience daily life here, you
don't really know anything about it.
Black people have the same opportunity to get a good education and a
good job as white people. They also have the same opportunity to
get killed by a cop as white people, and it's caused by resisting
arrest. Almost all the people killed by cops recently resisted
arrest. All they had to do was allow the cops to handcuff them and
put them in a patrol car, and it would have been over, and no one
would have been hurt.
Systemic racism is a catchy little phrase that means nothing. It
doesn't exist.
You have not been paying close attention have you?
8 shots fired into a darkened bedroom killed Breanna Taylor
when the police burst into her home in the middle of the night. She
was an EMT and the police had the wrong address of a drug operation.
She was an Emergency Medical Techician, a person very important
in this time of Covid-19
George Floyd's deliberate murder by a police office started
this whole recurrence of demonstrations. Can I stop by and kneel on
your neck for 8 or 9 minutes? It killed George and he was completely
under control and begging to be allowed to breathe, until he
died from lack of oxygen.
9 days ago Jacob Blake was shot 7 times in the back in
front of the car full of his children as he went to get
documents by a white policeman.
Daniel Prude was put in a spit hood and then smothered
by the police who held him on the ground.
You are not paying attention to the Real News as printed
in real newspapers and published via TV both commercial and Public
supported. Black children killed while playing with toy guns.
One of my Amiga Users Group friends, a artistic black
man with degrees died in a hospital because the right tests
had not been done and his aneurysm ruptured.
My roomie with abdominal pain to the ER, testing done
in an hour or two, she is white, and repair to a double
abdominal aneurysm saved her life. Black people and women
generally get poorer medical care and have for a long time
than white men.
She was lucky.
I live in San Francisco, have been white for 83 years
and never had the mistreatment I see inflicted casually on
black men and women nearly every day by racially biased
police.
Wake up before your preconceptions of the America
depicted in grade school kill you.
bliss
Then you were around when racism existed legally. Do you really think
what is happening today can compare with that.

Do you accept the fact that black people have the same opportunities in
life as white people?

George Floyd would still be alive if he had just obeyed the officer's
order and got in the patrol car. He also had a lethal dose of drugs in
his system that contributed to his death.

White people have also died because no knock warrants, but it's only in
the news for a few days.
Bobbie Sellers
2020-09-14 20:46:45 UTC
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Post by Johnny
On Mon, 14 Sep 2020 13:08:50 -0700
Post by Bobbie Sellers
Post by Johnny
On Mon, 14 Sep 2020 20:42:05 +0200
Post by Aragorn
Post by Big Bad Bob
 He objects to the Artist putting up a sensible slogan.
OK. How about if I say "WHITE lives matter" ? Can I do that?
Everyone has already long lost the plot on that one. In essence,
it should read "ALL lives matter", yes, but the fact that it says
"Black lives matter" is a RESPONSE TO AN UNJUST SITUATION, namely
a situation of systemic racism within the USA, and especially
gratuitous police violence against people of non-Caucasian
ethnicity. So they chose the name of their organization to reflect
that clear and present injustice. Don't ever forget what Dr.
Martin Luther King died for in 1968.
As for your bigoted rant against socialism and communism, first of
all, you probably don't even understand what either of them really
are, because all you know about them comes from your
indoctrination in post-McCarthy's American Big Commie Scare. And
secondly, I hate capitalism and consumerism, and everything those
two things have done to this world — socially and environmentally
— even more than you hate those two things that you don't even
understand.
And yet you don't see me ranting about them.
Since you don't live in the US and experience daily life here, you
don't really know anything about it.
Black people have the same opportunity to get a good education and a
good job as white people. They also have the same opportunity to
get killed by a cop as white people, and it's caused by resisting
arrest. Almost all the people killed by cops recently resisted
arrest. All they had to do was allow the cops to handcuff them and
put them in a patrol car, and it would have been over, and no one
would have been hurt.
Systemic racism is a catchy little phrase that means nothing. It
doesn't exist.
You have not been paying close attention have you?
8 shots fired into a darkened bedroom killed Breanna Taylor
when the police burst into her home in the middle of the night. She
was an EMT and the police had the wrong address of a drug operation.
She was an Emergency Medical Techician, a person very important
in this time of Covid-19
George Floyd's deliberate murder by a police office started
this whole recurrence of demonstrations. Can I stop by and kneel on
your neck for 8 or 9 minutes? It killed George and he was completely
under control and begging to be allowed to breathe, until he
died from lack of oxygen.
9 days ago Jacob Blake was shot 7 times in the back in
front of the car full of his children as he went to get
documents by a white policeman.
Daniel Prude was put in a spit hood and then smothered
by the police who held him on the ground.
You are not paying attention to the Real News as printed
in real newspapers and published via TV both commercial and Public
supported. Black children killed while playing with toy guns.
One of my Amiga Users Group friends, a artistic black
man with degrees died in a hospital because the right tests
had not been done and his aneurysm ruptured.
My roomie with abdominal pain to the ER, testing done
in an hour or two, she is white, and repair to a double
abdominal aneurysm saved her life. Black people and women
generally get poorer medical care and have for a long time
than white men.
She was lucky.
I live in San Francisco, have been white for 83 years
and never had the mistreatment I see inflicted casually on
black men and women nearly every day by racially biased
police.
Wake up before your preconceptions of the America
depicted in grade school kill you.
bliss
Then you were around when racism existed legally. Do you really think
what is happening today can compare with that.
So what! Because I don't have hear about as many lynchings
by the KKK because they(kkk) have integrated into the police force?
Post by Johnny
Do you accept the fact that black people have the same opportunities in
life as white people?
Some do and some do not.
Think of Colin Kaeperneck who was banned from NFL for protesting
the murder of other black men some years back. he took a knee not to
disrespect the Flag or the National Anthem which is just an old drinking
song with fresh words but to raise the issue of the right of black
people to life. That got him in trouble with the NFL who want black
men to risk their brains to amuse sports fans from whom the NFL
extracts lots of money. They don't want black men no matter how
well they play to bring up the issues.

We have lots of older black men and women who lived through
the days of legal discrimination and they are not as old as I am.
Post by Johnny
George Floyd would still be alive if he had just obeyed the officer's
order and got in the patrol car. He also had a lethal dose of drugs in
his system that contributed to his death.
Not from what I have read. But he had Covid-19 and told the
officers so. Why would he take a lethal dose of drugs? He worked
for a living and was known to his killer who worked security at
the same place. Kneeling on a neck because the man did not get
into the patrol car is ridiculous and you racist thugs always
come up with fresh excuses for the police murders. And when
he died he was under complete control with 4 police officers holding
him down and one kneeling on his neck to kill him.

It is not the fault of the dead black man. It is the white
lynchers in blue uniforms who are to blame.
Post by Johnny
White people have also died because no knock warrants, but it's only in
the news for a few days.
Sure. No knock warrants are bad things as are midnight drug
raids, First one I heard about killed a aged black minister in
Boston, I believe. Again wrong address supplied by a Confidential
Informant.
Oh and the property seizure in Southern California by
government agents without proper procedures in notification resulted
in the death of the white property owner. They wanted to add his
property to the nearby facility.

But go read something that is not biased to get the
truth of the situation. Not something from QAnon or from
Fox(faux) News. Try PBS Newshour or CBS.

bliss
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Bobbie Sellers
2020-09-14 20:46:06 UTC
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Post by Johnny
On Mon, 14 Sep 2020 13:08:50 -0700
Post by Bobbie Sellers
Post by Johnny
On Mon, 14 Sep 2020 20:42:05 +0200
Post by Aragorn
Post by Big Bad Bob
 He objects to the Artist putting up a sensible slogan.
OK. How about if I say "WHITE lives matter" ? Can I do that?
Everyone has already long lost the plot on that one. In essence,
it should read "ALL lives matter", yes, but the fact that it says
"Black lives matter" is a RESPONSE TO AN UNJUST SITUATION, namely
a situation of systemic racism within the USA, and especially
gratuitous police violence against people of non-Caucasian
ethnicity. So they chose the name of their organization to reflect
that clear and present injustice. Don't ever forget what Dr.
Martin Luther King died for in 1968.
As for your bigoted rant against socialism and communism, first of
all, you probably don't even understand what either of them really
are, because all you know about them comes from your
indoctrination in post-McCarthy's American Big Commie Scare. And
secondly, I hate capitalism and consumerism, and everything those
two things have done to this world — socially and environmentally
— even more than you hate those two things that you don't even
understand.
And yet you don't see me ranting about them.
Since you don't live in the US and experience daily life here, you
don't really know anything about it.
Black people have the same opportunity to get a good education and a
good job as white people. They also have the same opportunity to
get killed by a cop as white people, and it's caused by resisting
arrest. Almost all the people killed by cops recently resisted
arrest. All they had to do was allow the cops to handcuff them and
put them in a patrol car, and it would have been over, and no one
would have been hurt.
Systemic racism is a catchy little phrase that means nothing. It
doesn't exist.
You have not been paying close attention have you?
8 shots fired into a darkened bedroom killed Breanna Taylor
when the police burst into her home in the middle of the night. She
was an EMT and the police had the wrong address of a drug operation.
She was an Emergency Medical Techician, a person very important
in this time of Covid-19
George Floyd's deliberate murder by a police office started
this whole recurrence of demonstrations. Can I stop by and kneel on
your neck for 8 or 9 minutes? It killed George and he was completely
under control and begging to be allowed to breathe, until he
died from lack of oxygen.
9 days ago Jacob Blake was shot 7 times in the back in
front of the car full of his children as he went to get
documents by a white policeman.
Daniel Prude was put in a spit hood and then smothered
by the police who held him on the ground.
You are not paying attention to the Real News as printed
in real newspapers and published via TV both commercial and Public
supported. Black children killed while playing with toy guns.
One of my Amiga Users Group friends, a artistic black
man with degrees died in a hospital because the right tests
had not been done and his aneurysm ruptured.
My roomie with abdominal pain to the ER, testing done
in an hour or two, she is white, and repair to a double
abdominal aneurysm saved her life. Black people and women
generally get poorer medical care and have for a long time
than white men.
She was lucky.
I live in San Francisco, have been white for 83 years
and never had the mistreatment I see inflicted casually on
black men and women nearly every day by racially biased
police.
Wake up before your preconceptions of the America
depicted in grade school kill you.
bliss
Then you were around when racism existed legally. Do you really think
what is happening today can compare with that.
So what! Because I don't have hear about as many lynchings
by the KKK because they(kkk) have integrated into the police force?
Post by Johnny
Do you accept the fact that black people have the same opportunities in
life as white people?
Some do and some do not.
Think of Colin Kaeperneck who was banned from NFL for protesting
the murder of other black men some years back. he took a knee not to
disrespect the Flag or the National Anthem which is just an old drinking
song with fresh words but to raise the issue of the right of black
people to life. That got him in trouble with the NFL who want black
men to risk their brains to amuse sports fans from whom the NFL
extracts lots of money. They don't want black men no matter how
well they play to bring up the issues.

We have lots of older black men and women who lived through
the days of legal discrimination and they are not as old as I am.
Post by Johnny
George Floyd would still be alive if he had just obeyed the officer's
order and got in the patrol car. He also had a lethal dose of drugs in
his system that contributed to his death.
Not from what I have read. But he had Covid-19 and told the
officers so. Why would he take a lethal dose of drugs? He worked
for a living and was known to his killer who worked security at
the same place. Kneeling on a neck because the man did not get
into the patrol car is ridiculous and you racist thugs always
come up with fresh excuses for the police murders. And when
he died he was under complete control with 4 police officers holding
him down and one kneeling on his neck to kill him.

It is not the fault of the dead black man. It is the white
lynchers in blue uniforms who are to blame.
Post by Johnny
White people have also died because no knock warrants, but it's only in
the news for a few days.
Sure. No knock warrants are bad things as are midnight drug
raids, First one I heard about killed a aged black minister in
Boston, I believe. Again wrong address supplied by a Confidential
Informant.
Oh and the property seizure in Southern California by
government agents without proper procedures in notification resulted
in the death of the white property owner. They wanted to add his
property to the nearby facility.

But go read something that is not biased to get the
truth of the situation. Not something from QAnon or from
Fox(faux) News. Try PBS Newshour or CBS.

bliss
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Mike Easter
2020-09-14 21:59:12 UTC
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    George Floyd's deliberate murder by a police office started this
whole recurrence of demonstrations.  Can I stop by and kneel on your
neck for 8 or 9 minutes?  It killed George and he was completely
under control and begging to be allowed to breathe, until he
died from lack of oxygen.
    9 days ago Jacob Blake was shot 7 times in the back in
front of the car full of his children as he went to get
documents by a white policeman.
Those presentations are biased.

Presumably George Floyd wouldn't have died if Derek Chauvin hadn't knelt
on him, altho' Floyd had a dangerous level of fentanyl & methamphetamine
in his system, and was saying 'I can't breathe' repetitively before he
was even on the ground.

While the Chauvin restraint of a handcuffed perpetrator doesn't seem to
be necessary to a layman, his behavior during the time of transition to
the police car was non-compliant.

One would have to look inside Chauvin's head to determine what he was
thinking; personally I think it was his intent to render Floyd
unconscious with what he believed to be a 'legitimate' restraint so that
Floyd could be hauled off in an ambulance rather than the police car.

So Chauvin's 'strategy' turns out to be reckless endangerment and
probably manslaughter even tho' his attorney will contend that the kneel
is included as part of the training of officers for non-compliant but
handcuffed perpetrator/suspects.

The so-called 'neck restraint' is considered a non-deadly force option
and is supposed to be used somewhere between the shoulder blades and the
neck to control the head. I don't see how Chauvin (or his attorney) can
justify its use in this case, and I'm also not completely sure there
wasn't something 'between' Chauvin and Floyd that we don't know about,
given that they worked at the same place -- altho' supposedly they
didn't know each other.

Jacob Blake wasn't so innocent either; the business of not complying w/
cops when you already have a rap sheet of felonious assault is going to
endanger you.
--
Mike Easter
Mike Easter
2020-09-14 22:23:34 UTC
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Post by Mike Easter
     9 days ago Jacob Blake was shot 7 times in the back in
front of the car full of his children as he went to get
documents by a white policeman.
Those presentations are biased.
Jacob Blake wasn't so innocent either; the business of not complying w/
cops when you already have a rap sheet of felonious assault is going to
endanger you.
The cops' dispatch was about a domestic incident in progress and that
the address and the caller corresponded to the felony sexual assault
victim and 'wanted' arrest warrant for Blake for domestic abuse with 3rd
degree sexual assault, trespassing, and disorderly conduct.

In mere minutes Blake scuffled w/ officers who unsuccessfully tried to
tase him and ordered him to comply with their guns drawn. The officers
ordered him to drop his knife but he still didn't comply and went for
his car, opened the door and bent over into the car. That is when the
officer who was trying to hold him back by his shirt started shooting.

Blake later admitted having a knife and it was found in the car's
floorboard.

The problem with being a bad actor who is violent w/ women and police
and doesn't comply in the face of multiple police officers with drawn
guns is that you are liable to get shot, for goodness sakes.

The officers don't know if the next thing he is going to come up with
from the car is a firearm; a handgun, an uzi, a sawed-off shotgun or
what. People talk about officers in these situations being 'scared'.
If I were in such an encounter with cop/s, I would be VERY careful to
not do anything that might get an officer scared, or whatever you want
to call it.
--
Mike Easter
Aragorn
2020-09-14 20:36:15 UTC
Permalink
Post by Johnny
On Mon, 14 Sep 2020 20:42:05 +0200
Post by Aragorn
Post by Big Bad Bob
 He objects to the Artist putting up a sensible slogan.
OK. How about if I say "WHITE lives matter" ? Can I do that?
Everyone has already long lost the plot on that one. In essence, it
should read "ALL lives matter", yes, but the fact that it says
"Black lives matter" is a RESPONSE TO AN UNJUST SITUATION, namely a
situation of systemic racism within the USA, and especially
gratuitous police violence against people of non-Caucasian
ethnicity. So they chose the name of their organization to reflect
that clear and present injustice. Don't ever forget what Dr. Martin
Luther King died for in 1968.
As for your bigoted rant against socialism and communism, first of
all, you probably don't even understand what either of them really
are, because all you know about them comes from your indoctrination
in post-McCarthy's American Big Commie Scare. And secondly, I hate
capitalism and consumerism, and everything those two things have
done to this world — socially and environmentally — even more than
you hate those two things that you don't even understand.
And yet you don't see me ranting about them.
Since you don't live in the US and experience daily life here, you
don't really know anything about it.
Some of my dearest friends — whom I am virtually constantly in contact
with, thanks to the internet and instant messengers — do live in the
USA. And not having my nose right on top of it and/or being
slapped around the ears with propaganda by the corporate mainstream
news media makes it even easier for me to see what's going on there.
Post by Johnny
Black people have the same opportunity to get a good education and a
good job as white people. They also have the same opportunity to get
killed by a cop as white people, and it's caused by resisting arrest.
Bullshit.
Post by Johnny
Almost all the people killed by cops recently resisted arrest.
A 12-year-old running in a certain direction — and not necessarily
"away" — is not what I call "resisting arrest". But he got shot up
with multiple rounds just the same.

An already handcuffed guy lying on the floor and complaining that he
could not breathe because of the police officer's knee on his neck is
also not what I call "resisting arrest".
Post by Johnny
Systemic racism is a catchy little phrase that means nothing. It
doesn't exist.
You keep telling yourself that, sonny. It'll let you sleep better.
--
With respect,
= Aragorn =
Mike Easter
2020-09-13 18:01:58 UTC
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Posted to aolu only
Normally XKCD is a witty, intelligent, IT-related online comic that
gives us all a good laugh.
You did NOT provide any Randall Munroe + BLM issue in your rant.

If I search to try to find xkcd/blm, I find a Reddit page saying Randall
'stands with' BLM, but I don't really find a distinct connection.

The issue of BLM is a mess, IMO. It is one thing for the public to be
concerned about the appearance of police brutality against a citizen who
is black, but the init/term is definitely racist.

In addition to that, any alleged peaceful protests are indistinguishable
from rioting and anarchy; IMO no kind of protest or assembly should be
allowed in conditions of risks of rioting and destruction.

On top of everything else, the websites and organizations associated
with the term are 'usurped' by unsavory elements including
Marxists/anarchists.

On a different Reddit page, I read that an XKCD strip that said BLM how
to help first went to Campaign Zero, but now goes to BLM.

I was able to find the most info in this regard at a site called
'Explain XKCD' in a section Changes to the Header Text spec 2020-06-03 -
Black Lives Matter

https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/xkcd_Header_text#2020-06-03_-_Black_Lives_Matter


It 'confirms' the change of howtohelp from
https://www.joincampaignzero.org/ to https://blacklivesmatter.com/

Personally I wouldn't be supporting either of those sites or organizations.
--
Mike Easter
Mike Easter
2020-09-13 19:45:17 UTC
Permalink
Oops. Now I see the 'gripe'.
Post by Mike Easter
You did NOT provide any Randall Munroe + BLM issue in your rant.
I was looking for a particular day's cel. Now I see that xkcd has a
pro-BLM 'banner' at the top of its page every day and the help link does
go to the BLM site.
--
Mike Easter
Chris Ahlstrom
2020-09-13 19:59:01 UTC
Permalink
Post by Mike Easter
Posted to aolu only
Normally XKCD is a witty, intelligent, IT-related online comic that
gives us all a good laugh.
I was able to find the most info in this regard at a site called
'Explain XKCD' in a section Changes to the Header Text spec 2020-06-03 -
Black Lives Matter
https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/xkcd_Header_text#2020-06-03_-_Black_Lives_Matter
It 'confirms' the change of howtohelp from
https://www.joincampaignzero.org/ to https://blacklivesmatter.com/
Personally I wouldn't be supporting either of those sites or organizations.
One interesting experiment is to look at redirections.

"antifa.com" redirects to "joebiden.com". An obvious "prank", as "whois
antifa.com" indicates a host in Panama.

"antifa.org" doesn't redirect. It indicates that antifa is not an organization
and the black lives matter.

As for people who say that "All Lives Matter", I would say that the evidence is
clear that they do not matter as much as white lives, and so we have to emphasize
that black lives do matter.
--
It is the wisdom of crocodiles, that shed tears when they would devour.
-- Francis Bacon
Mike Easter
2020-09-13 20:38:58 UTC
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Post by Chris Ahlstrom
As for people who say that "All Lives Matter", I would say that the evidence is
clear that they do not matter as much as white lives, and so we have to emphasize
that black lives do matter.
I don't agree w/ that concept. I think cop racism has been exaggerated,
but certainly not eliminated. I don't agree that anyone should
emphasize any color lives 'mattering', blue, yellow, white, or brown.

People matter. Too many people are 'postulating' some kind of vague
'systemic racism' problem which I don't accept.
--
Mike Easter
Bobbie Sellers
2020-09-14 01:49:20 UTC
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Post by Chris Ahlstrom
As for people who say that "All Lives Matter", I would say that the evidence is
clear that they do not matter as much as white lives, and so we have to emphasize
that black lives do matter.
Yes all those lives matter but it is primarily the black people
who are getting killed by police. Not only killed but beaten up for
merely questioning the right of the police to demand id of everyone
in the car.
I don't agree w/ that concept.  I think cop racism has been exaggerated,
Elijah McClain, Breonna Taylor, Ahmaud Arbery, Trayvon Martin, George
Floyd, Tamir Rice, and Philando Castile. the guy wo was selling
cigarettes in NYC, he was asthmatic and told the police he could not
breath which where phrase "Hands Up, I cannot breath" came from.
The guy shot 7 times in the back as he went to get license from the
car full of his children. George Floyd who may have passed a $20
counterfeit bill did not deserve death for his crime and he worked
at a Club where the killer worked security. They knew each other.
He told them he was ill and that he could not breath and the police
offer was kneeling on his neck for nearly 9 minutes.
but certainly not eliminated.  I don't agree that anyone should
emphasize any color lives 'mattering', blue, yellow, white, or brown.
Funny you should mention that. A Chinese student in Louisiana
had lost his way and knocked on the door of a home to ask directions and
was shot to death by the fearful inhabitants. That was a few years ago.

About 80 years back in LA racist sailors created the so-called
"Zoot suit riots" and they terrorized the Latinino communities because
they were not allowed free access to the Latino women and the Latino men
objected to this attempt to turn their women into whores.

And if it is not systemic racism then how do you explain
the incidents happening all over the USA? The black people recognise
that the police grew out of the attempts by slave states to control
their slaves. By the way the South was not the only place where white
men owned black slaves. There were a fair number in NYC where feelings
over Abolition were quite mixed. There were others all over the North,
though lots of industrialists were converting to modern "wage slavery".
People matter.  Too many people are 'postulating' some kind of vague
'systemic racism' problem which I don't accept.
Then how do you explain the deaths at the hands of the police?

They have been carefully taught to be afraid of black men and women and
they act out of racist fear fear than any realistic fear
of danger.

Trump in his interviews with Woodward admitted that there was
systemic racism but denied that anything should be done about it.

I hope we can stop talking about this in alt.os.linux.ubuntu
it was severely off topic and remains so.

bliss
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DanS
2020-09-14 20:37:08 UTC
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Post by Bobbie Sellers
Post by Chris Ahlstrom
As for people who say that "All Lives Matter", I would
say that the evidence is
clear that they do not matter as much as white lives, and
so we have to emphasize
that black lives do matter.
Yes all those lives matter but it is primarily the
black people
who are getting killed by police. Not only killed but
beaten up for merely questioning the right of the police to
demand id of everyone in the car.
I don't agree w/ that concept.  I think cop racism has
been exaggerated,
Elijah McClain, Breonna Taylor, Ahmaud Arbery, Trayvon
Martin, George Floyd, Tamir Rice, and Philando Castile. the
guy wo was selling cigarettes in NYC, he was asthmatic and
told the police he could not breath which where phrase
"Hands Up, I cannot breath" came from. The guy shot 7 times
in the back as he went to get license from the car full of
his children. George Floyd who may have passed a $20
counterfeit bill did not deserve death for his crime and he
worked at a Club where the killer worked security. They
knew each other. He told them he was ill and that he could
not breath and the police offer was kneeling on his neck
for nearly 9 minutes.
Ahmaud Arbery was shot by a citizen.

Trayvon Martin was shot by a citizen.

An no, it isn't "Hands Up, I can't breathe"

It's "Hands Up,Don't Shoot"

...and "I can't breathe"....unless you're talking about the recently released song.

I'm surprised you didn't include Michael Brown in that list.

<
Post by Bobbie Sellers
And if it is not systemic racism then how do you
explain
the incidents happening all over the USA?
Are you from here? It's faily easy to explain.

Gun culture and violence, and the acceptance of it.
And black culture.
Post by Bobbie Sellers
The black people
recognise that the police grew out of the attempts by slave
states to control their slaves.
Really? That's why there are cops?
Post by Bobbie Sellers
By the way the South was
not the only place where white men owned black slaves.
There were a fair number in NYC where feelings over
Then how do you explain the deaths at the hands of the
police?
They have been carefully taught to be afraid of black
men and women and
they act out of racist fear fear than any realistic fear
of danger.
Afraid of black men and women?

Here....let me offer this up.....

You are a police officer.
Police officers are needed to keep law and order, and stop crime.
As a police officer, you don't go to where there is little crime.
You are sent to crime infested neighborhoods.
These neighborhoods, are usually filled with POC.
These neighborhoods are the most crime-ridden, with
drugs, hangs, and violence regularly.
The peole in these neighborhoods that commit the crimes, that
are the drug dealers, the gang members, are the same POC.

So, if you deal with these people left and right, day in and day out,
you form some type of working opinion of them. Things can turn in
an instant.

THAT is what causes most cops to act the way they do.

Well....that, and just an overwhelming sense of power.
Some are just d*cks.


You know, they say the problem is reducing the interactions
blacks have with police. One NYS legislator, Peoples-Stokes,
said that she thinks that the best way to limit blacks interactions
with police, it to stop enforcing 'minor' laws?
Bobbie Sellers
2020-09-15 00:59:01 UTC
Permalink
Post by DanS
Post by Bobbie Sellers
Post by Chris Ahlstrom
As for people who say that "All Lives Matter", I would
say that the evidence is
clear that they do not matter as much as white lives, and
so we have to emphasize
that black lives do matter.
Yes all those lives matter but it is primarily the
black people
who are getting killed by police. Not only killed but
beaten up for merely questioning the right of the police to
demand id of everyone in the car.
I don't agree w/ that concept.  I think cop racism has
been exaggerated,
Elijah McClain, Breonna Taylor, Ahmaud Arbery, Trayvon
Martin, George Floyd, Tamir Rice, and Philando Castile. the
guy wo was selling cigarettes in NYC, he was asthmatic and
told the police he could not breath which where phrase
"Hands Up, I cannot breath" came from. The guy shot 7 times
in the back as he went to get license from the car full of
his children. George Floyd who may have passed a $20
counterfeit bill did not deserve death for his crime and he
worked at a Club where the killer worked security. They
knew each other. He told them he was ill and that he could
not breath and the police offer was kneeling on his neck
for nearly 9 minutes.
Ahmaud Arbery was shot by a citizen.
Trayvon Martin was shot by a citizen.
An no, it isn't "Hands Up, I can't breathe"
It's "Hands Up,Don't Shoot"
....and "I can't breathe"....unless you're talking about the recently released song.
I'm surprised you didn't include Michael Brown in that list.
<
Post by Bobbie Sellers
And if it is not systemic racism then how do you
explain
the incidents happening all over the USA?
Are you from here? It's faily easy to explain.
Gun culture and violence, and the acceptance of it.
And black culture.
Post by Bobbie Sellers
The black people
recognise that the police grew out of the attempts by slave
states to control their slaves.
Really? That's why there are cops?
Not the only reason but white people get treated
with respect while black people are treated much worse. Did you
know that the Irish and the Italians were treated by society
as well as the police as they treated black men and women.
Then some of them joined the force and mistreatment of the
Irish changed and they got Italian lawyers and their
treatment changed.
Meantime the blacks did the same things but are
still being treated in a hostile manner by the police
including the black police.
Soon we will have lots of Muslims on the
police forces and as attorneys and the mistreatment
to which Muslims are subjected will change unless they
happen to be black. That is just a prediction but it
seems to be the rule in the USA which was built in
large part by the labor of black people.

They went and fought in our wars and came
home to be lynched by the racist bastards who thought
that a black man had no right to wear a uniform.
Look up the Harlem Hellfighters and the Black Eagles.
Look up the Buffalo Soldiers.
Post by DanS
Post by Bobbie Sellers
By the way the South was
not the only place where white men owned black slaves.
There were a fair number in NYC where feelings over
Then how do you explain the deaths at the hands of the
police?
They have been carefully taught to be afraid of black
men and women and
they act out of racist fear fear than any realistic fear
of danger.
Afraid of black men and women?
How else do you explain the murder of Brianna Taylor.
8 shots into a darkened bedroom killing her without a doubt.
Post by DanS
Here....let me offer this up.....
You are a police officer.
Police officers are needed to keep law and order, and stop crime.
As a police officer, you don't go to where there is little crime.
Only when you are called to a up-scale neighborhood where
some Qaren has decided that the black man making deliveries is bent
on crime. Then you show up and beat him up for doing his job.
One man was concussed recently in Vallejo as his older bother an
exMarine videoed the incident. People of color are harassed in
their own cars out on the open road by police officers who think
that the car is too good for the black man to own.
The police wanted to know what the brother was doing and
when he stated his name and occupancy of the property and former
service the policeman thanked him for his service.
Post by DanS
You are sent to crime infested neighborhoods.
These neighborhoods, are usually filled with POC.
These neighborhoods are the most crime-ridden, with
drugs, hangs, and violence regularly.
The peole in these neighborhoods that commit the crimes, that
are the drug dealers, the gang members, are the same POC.
So, if you deal with these people left and right, day in and day out,
you form some type of working opinion of them. Things can turn in
an instant.
THAT is what causes most cops to act the way they do.
Oh the poor policeman with bullet proof vest and legally
armed..,But when did they get the license to kill?
Post by DanS
Well....that, and just an overwhelming sense of power.
Some are just d*cks.
Just a bunch of cowardly fucks who hate and fear
black men and women.
Post by DanS
You know, they say the problem is reducing the interactions
blacks have with police. One NYS legislator, Peoples-Stokes,
said that she thinks that the best way to limit blacks interactions
with police, it to stop enforcing 'minor' laws?
But if minor laws are not enforced they lead to lives
of crime. This is the argument for enforcement of minor crimes
like breaking windows in abandoned property. But you toss as
kid into jail and he gets elementary lessons in crime ans
quite possibly raped by other inmates. So you treat these
minor crimes in different ways than major acts of violence.

bliss
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Daniel
2020-09-14 09:32:36 UTC
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Post by Mike Easter
Post by Chris Ahlstrom
As for people who say that "All Lives Matter", I would say that the evidence is
clear that they do not matter as much as white lives, and so we have to emphasize
that black lives do matter.
I don't agree w/ that concept. I think cop racism has been
exaggerated, but certainly not eliminated. I don't agree that anyone
should emphasize any color lives 'mattering', blue, yellow, white, or
brown.
People matter. Too many people are 'postulating' some kind of vague
'systemic racism' problem which I don't accept.
You're in the mass majority here. Systemic racism only exists in the
eyes of the racist trash of blm and antifa. They're embracing
segregation of color and the decay of civil rights. Their existence and
philosophy is a sober reminder of how American education has decayed due
to a far lef infiltration into the teaching career field. Colleges are,
unfortunately, doing more harm to our society than good. I have to agree
with Jordan Peterson on his opinion. I live in California and our
recently adopted sex ed standards are a true sign of this decay. It's
frightening. All my friends with school-aged children are pulling them
out in favor of home school. Some are moving out of our state
completely. It's sad.

The extremists will fail. The American spirit is strong. They haven't
awoken the sleeping giant yet. They have no clue how well armed the
average American is these days.

And this whole baloney about the riots resulting from police brutality
is a thinly veiled lie. It hasn't been about that since the
beginning. While they state this group isn't an organization, they're
certainly funded, planned, and organized. It's information warfare and
most believers don't know how to think critically nor do they have a
concept of history. Of course, the legacy press is complicit in their
actions and report how peaceful the riots are while whole buildings burn
in the background. 'Fury, yet peaceful.'

Things will be quite different in six months.

Any large business embracing BLM in today's climate will not realize how
much they've lost until it's too late. Their actions will be their
undoing.
--
Daniel
notX
2020-09-14 21:16:38 UTC
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On 9/13/20 2:59 PM, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

[snip]
Post by Chris Ahlstrom
As for people who say that "All Lives Matter", I would say that the evidence is
clear that they do not matter as much as white lives, and so we have to emphasize
that black lives do matter.
I avoid racism as much as I can. I don't like being pushed into it.

Lives matter. Being racially specific about it IS racist. That's what
the word means. Using one instance of racism to justify another doesn't
make sense.

BTW, I liked the "passwords" XKCD comic.
Big Bad Bob
2020-09-14 23:24:40 UTC
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Post by Chris Ahlstrom
As for people who say that "All Lives Matter", I would say that the evidence is
clear that they do not matter as much as white lives, and so we have to emphasize
that black lives do matter.
OK Moocher
Big Bad Bob
2020-09-14 23:23:15 UTC
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Post by Mike Easter
On a different Reddit page, I read that an XKCD strip that said BLM how
to help first went to Campaign Zero, but now goes to BLM.
I was able to find the most info in this regard at a site called
'Explain XKCD' in a section Changes to the Header Text spec 2020-06-03 -
Black Lives Matter
https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/xkcd_Header_text#2020-06-03_-_Black_Lives_Matter
It 'confirms' the change of howtohelp from
https://www.joincampaignzero.org/ to https://blacklivesmatter.com/
Personally I wouldn't be supporting either of those sites or organizations.
nice research! I just wanted to point it out, you took it to the next
level.
Chris Ahlstrom
2020-09-13 19:47:11 UTC
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Big Bad Bob wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
You poor little snowflake. Black lives do matter. Just, apparently, not as much
as "All lives".
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Melzzzzz
2020-09-13 20:30:45 UTC
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Post by Chris Ahlstrom
You poor little snowflake. Black lives do matter. Just, apparently, not as much
as "All lives".
What's the fuss now?
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Big Bad Bob
2020-09-14 23:28:06 UTC
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Post by Chris Ahlstrom
You poor little snowflake.
hardly. I was proably hunting commies in a submarine when your father
was in diapers.
Post by Chris Ahlstrom
Black lives do matter. Just, apparently, not as much
as "All lives".
It is racist to make that distinction based solely upon race. That is
the point.
pinnerite
2020-09-29 16:56:32 UTC
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Post by Big Bad Bob
Post by Chris Ahlstrom
You poor little snowflake.
hardly. I was proably hunting commies in a submarine when your father
was in diapers.
Post by Chris Ahlstrom
Black lives do matter. Just, apparently, not as much as "All lives".
It is racist to make that distinction based solely upon race. That is
the point.
I am British and living in England. As you know our policemen and women
do not routinely carry guns, nor is their first point of call a taser,
baton or pepper spray. They execrcise common sense and a little
psychology.

I am very proud o the fact that we have never as a nation been
institutionaly racist. Yes, there have been pockets and we are ashamed of
them.

I was equally proud to learn that during WWII when thousands of Americans
were stationed here, the following was overheard, "I love the Americans
but why did they have to bring those white ones with them".

I would swap the mantra that every US polition likes to spout of "God
Bless America" to "God Save America".
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gamo
2020-10-06 16:34:32 UTC
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Post by Big Bad Bob
This is (quite) a bit O.T. except that I'm pretty sure that XKCD's
audience is well represented in these newsgroups...
I want to draw your attention to it.  If you thnk I'm just being a
troll, then don't "feed" me.  I'm busy working and don't have time for
flame wars.
The author of XKCD has, in my opinion, COMMITTED AN EGREGIOUS VIOLATION
OF BASIC INTELLIGENCE.  Normally XKCD is a witty, intelligent,
IT-related online comic that gives us all a good laugh.  This is one of
my favorites.
  https://xkcd.com/936/
And recently, I followed such a link to an XKCD comic from an online
forum, only to my HORROR to have *THAT* waved in my face!
If you go to that link, and you do NOT see it, you will NOT understand.
And you may not want to continue reading this... (but go ahead anyway,
at your own peril)
It is an OBVIOUS FAILURE of the XKCD author to recognize that a
particular group, who's initials are "B.L.M.", is nothing LESS than a
(well funded) MOB of COMMUNIST REBELS trying to DESTROY FREEDOM by
RIOTING, LOOTING, MURDERING, and blaming POLICE and REPUBLICANS
(especially Donald Trump) for it, while SIMULTANEOUSLY trying to
MANIPULATE people through distortions of truth and outright LIES about
what little remaining racism exists in the world, by *BEING* *RACIST*
about it.
They are LYING, MANIPULATIVE, SCHEMING *RACIST* BOLSHEVIKS of the WORST
KIND.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bolshevik
(a history lesson for those educated after 1990)
What, you don't believe the *RACIST* part?  Well substitute ANYTHING but
'black' into "Black Lives Matter', wear it on a T shirt or put it on a
sign, and watch what happens.  Yeah.  It's *RACIST*.  Becaue "equal
treatment" does NOT apply with this MOB _OR_ their followers/supporters!
And *EVERY* *REFERENCE* *TO* *THEIR* *STUPID* *SLOGAN* is IN SUPPORT OF
THEIR **FUCKING** **COMMUNIST** **BULLSHIT**!!!  That includes the
COMMUNISM, the RIOTING, the LOOTING, the FLAGRANT DISREGARD FOR THE LAW
IN GENERAL, and so forth.
Do you REALLY want to live in a world with *THEM* *IN* *CHARGE*???
Then, STOP! SUPPORTING! THOSE! ASSHOLES!!!
(and vote for people who stand AGAINST them!!!)
Otherwise, you might find yourself on the WRONG SIDE of things, very
very very soon.
(in pre-emptive response:  "OK, Moocher"  "OK, Doomer"  "OK, Commie")
Wow. Impressive. Only one *rethoric* question...
Are you a win10 user?
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taht the frist and lsat ltteer be at the rghit pclae. The rset can be
a toatl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae
the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as
a wlohe.”
Big Bad Bob
2020-10-07 18:45:16 UTC
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Post by gamo
Wow. Impressive. Only one *rethoric* question...
Are you a win10 user?
No. Are you a shill? Troll?
--
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'Feeling with my fingers, and thinking with my brain' - me

'your story is so touching, but it sounds just like a lie'
"Straighten up and fly right"
gamo
2020-10-08 04:45:05 UTC
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Post by gamo
Wow. Impressive. Only one *rethoric* question...
Are you a win10 user?
No.  Are you a shill?  Troll?
Nope. Only logical.
Do you think a hackers group and a ubuntu group mix together???
You are a fisherman whose two neurons colapse one another, only
for reading "black lives matters" in a fine humour page.

GIPSY LIVES MATTER

HIPPIES LIVES MATTER

Take that with a grain of salt. It's life.
When you write a web page (and I mean your own page, not putting
shit in anothers web pages as a hacker could do) you will 'feel'
that you are FREE (as in FreeBSD) to put whatever you want.
It's a right.

Free speech forever. <- Yes, it's a pun, and happened in the past,
because I have my convictions but they include the freedom of others
to have theirs, and complement us *together*.

That's the magic of anti-selfiness, altruism, peace, etc.

Best, Big Bad Bob
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“Aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer
in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoetnt tihng is
taht the frist and lsat ltteer be at the rghit pclae. The rset can be
a toatl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae
the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as
a wlohe.”
Big Bad Bob
2020-10-09 18:43:50 UTC
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Post by gamo
Post by gamo
Wow. Impressive. Only one *rethoric* question...
Are you a win10 user?
No.  Are you a shill?  Troll?
Nope. Only logical.
then why would you assume I'm a windows 10 user and THEN
(understandably) apply that as a pejorative?

(talk about resorting to ad hominem attacks)

and you didn't even understand what I was doing: applying your own
technique, but to you, like a mirror.

<snip the rest>

and I feel with my *fingers* [and THINK with my brain]

disagreeing with you is not a lack of intelligence. I would suggest
that NOT disagreeing with you (bowing to peer pressure, let's say) _IS_
a mark of a POSSIBLE lack of intelligence.

This is a bit like when passive/aggressive and/or manipulative people
try to tell me I do not *UNDERSTAND* "whatever". It's like this: I
understand PERFECTLY, but "understand" does NOT equal "agree with YOU".
Implying that it IS insults my intelligence, and is MANIPULATIVE.


Your'e welcome.

(WHITE LIVES MATTER, TOO. There. I said it. And UNBORN LIVES MATTER)
gamo
2020-10-10 02:40:16 UTC
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(WHITE LIVES MATTER, TOO.  There.  I said it.  And UNBORN LIVES MATTER)
Well, I just don't care, it's all about US elections.
As the off topic could not broke anything in usenet you could
say explicitly what intelligent people must vote, to continue
your show and encorage more participation in the discussion.
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“Aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer
in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoetnt tihng is
taht the frist and lsat ltteer be at the rghit pclae. The rset can be
a toatl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae
the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as
a wlohe.”
hah
2020-10-10 18:20:09 UTC
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On 10/9/20 1:43 PM, Big Bad Bob wrote:

[snip]
(WHITE LIVES MATTER, TOO.  There.  I said it.  And UNBORN LIVES MATTER)
Bacterial lives matter. Hand sanitizer is murder. :-)
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Bobbie Sellers
2020-10-10 19:44:11 UTC
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Post by notX
[snip]
(WHITE LIVES MATTER, TOO.  There.  I said it.  And UNBORN LIVES MATTER)
Bacterial lives matter. Hand sanitizer is murder. :-)
Not sanitizing your hands properly is suicide these
days. Let the bacteria make their own peace with their own
G*d. Have your arguments for ready for examination before
you depart this plane of existence.

bliss - eating live yoghurt or cheese is bacterial murder
as well, when we bake a loaf of bread or fry a doughnut we also kill
millions of hard working yeast cells. Top Predator is people...
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Lain
2020-10-10 21:46:23 UTC
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On Fri, 9 Oct 2020 11:43:50 -0700
Post by Big Bad Bob
(WHITE LIVES MATTER, TOO. There. I said it. And UNBORN LIVES MATTER)
Nigger lives don't matter. Kike lives don't matter. Only Whites and Japanese should be allowed to live. Abortion is eugenics, it gets rid of a large portion of niggers and other subhumans. Christfags like you are as much a detriment to Western society and the future of White people as marxist jews and rioting niggers.
--
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Aragorn
2020-10-10 21:58:50 UTC
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Post by Lain
On Fri, 9 Oct 2020 11:43:50 -0700
Post by Big Bad Bob
(WHITE LIVES MATTER, TOO. There. I said it. And UNBORN LIVES MATTER)
Nigger lives don't matter. Kike lives don't matter. Only Whites and
Japanese should be allowed to live. Abortion is eugenics, it gets rid
of a large portion of niggers and other subhumans. Christfags like
you are as much a detriment to Western society and the future of
White people as marxist jews and rioting niggers.
If I were you, I'd urgently check myself in at a psychiatric clinic. Or
maybe I'd jump in front of a train. But I'd either way hate to have to
live my life knowing I'd have such a sick and hateful brain.

You are a disgrace to the human species.
--
With respect,
= Aragorn =
Lain
2020-10-10 22:16:07 UTC
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On Sat, 10 Oct 2020 23:58:50 +0200
Post by Aragorn
Post by Lain
On Fri, 9 Oct 2020 11:43:50 -0700
Post by Big Bad Bob
(WHITE LIVES MATTER, TOO. There. I said it. And UNBORN LIVES MATTER)
Nigger lives don't matter. Kike lives don't matter. Only Whites and
Japanese should be allowed to live. Abortion is eugenics, it gets rid
of a large portion of niggers and other subhumans. Christfags like
you are as much a detriment to Western society and the future of
White people as marxist jews and rioting niggers.
If I were you, I'd urgently check myself in at a psychiatric clinic. Or
maybe I'd jump in front of a train. But I'd either way hate to have to
live my life knowing I'd have such a sick and hateful brain.
You are a disgrace to the human species.
--
With respect,
= Aragorn =
Looks like someone is upset. People like you are weak and tender-minded. Hate is just as beatiful and necessary as love. It's the same relationship between destruction and creation. There is nothing sick or wrong about hatred. This kind of mentality you have is the result of a miserable, consumer life of being raised on TV-tropes on and degenerate American pop-culture. Denying emotions and instinct is sick and a sign of the decadent, backwards epoch we live in. Lift weights and read Evola, you miserable soyboy.
--
Lain <***@wired.net>
Bobbie Sellers
2020-10-10 22:48:39 UTC
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Post by Lain
On Sat, 10 Oct 2020 23:58:50 +0200
Post by Aragorn
Post by Lain
On Fri, 9 Oct 2020 11:43:50 -0700
Post by Big Bad Bob
(WHITE LIVES MATTER, TOO. There. I said it. And UNBORN LIVES MATTER)
Nigger lives don't matter. Kike lives don't matter. Only Whites and
Japanese should be allowed to live. Abortion is eugenics, it gets rid
of a large portion of niggers and other subhumans. Christfags like
you are as much a detriment to Western society and the future of
White people as marxist jews and rioting niggers.
If I were you, I'd urgently check myself in at a psychiatric clinic. Or
maybe I'd jump in front of a train. But I'd either way hate to have to
live my life knowing I'd have such a sick and hateful brain.
You are a disgrace to the human species.
--
With respect,
= Aragorn =
Looks like someone is upset. People like you are weak and tender-minded. Hate is just as beatiful and necessary as love. It's the same relationship between destruction and creation. There is nothing sick or wrong about hatred. This kind of mentality you have is the result of a miserable, consumer life of being raised on TV-tropes on and degenerate American pop-culture. Denying emotions and instinct is sick and a sign of the decadent, backwards epoch we live in. Lift weights and read Evola, you miserable soyboy.
Woo! Woo! Lots of assumptions in there. Hatred destroys and diminishes
the hater. Love out of control can do a lot of damage too
but compassion is the path forward. Weak and tender minded citizens in
the USA and in Europe picked up the guns in WW II and took the NAZI
state down. NAZI state valorized the sort of hatred you express.

Tender minded Americans and Communist led armies wiped up the
NAZI mess. It was not easy on the Americans and I doubt that Red
Army troops got away without PTSS (called battle-fatigue then)
And the Japanese learned the arts of capitalist peace.

I was not raised on TV tropes but on radio tropes.
Denying the Destructive Expression of Instinct and of passing
emotional states is civilization which you apparently wish to destroy.
Evola is like the Japanese novelist who attempted to restore
the divinity of the Imperial Line by attacking the modern institutions
but was laughed at as he tried to raise a rebellion and committed
suicide in the classical Samurai tradition having one of his cult behead
him. Time keeps moving on and Evola and his mentors and students were
left behind. Mussolini's end is instructive and so was Adoph Hitler
This is what hatred and Fascism leads to, so be warned of
the fate ahead if you cling to the discredited theories of the past.

Oh and Aragon is European to the core though he writes
clearly in English.

bliss - decadent Californian and Kali understanding.
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jjb
2020-10-11 09:58:34 UTC
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    Oh and Aragon is European to the core though he writes
clearly in English.
Being European and writing in English is not really that uncommon...
Bobbie Sellers
2020-10-11 14:25:22 UTC
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Post by jjb
    Oh and Aragon is European to the core though he writes
clearly in English.
Being European and writing in English is not really that uncommon...
Being American and writing in English seems to be more difficult for
people over here. I refer to orthography and to grammar generally.

bliss
--
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Henry Crun
2020-10-11 16:47:55 UTC
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Post by jjb
     Oh and Aragon is European to the core though he writes
clearly in English.
Being European and writing in English is not really that uncommon...
    Being American and writing in English seems to be more difficult for people over here.  I refer to orthography and
to grammar generally.
    bliss
Reminds me of a lower-school joke:

What do you call a person who can speak three languages -- trilingual
What do ypu call a person who can speak two languages -- bilingual
What do you call a person who can barely speak one language -- American

(apologies in advance if anyone feels hurt)
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Aragorn
2020-10-11 02:16:37 UTC
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Post by Lain
On Sat, 10 Oct 2020 23:58:50 +0200
Post by Aragorn
Post by Lain
Nigger lives don't matter. Kike lives don't matter. Only Whites
and Japanese should be allowed to live. Abortion is eugenics, it
gets rid of a large portion of niggers and other subhumans.
Christfags like you are as much a detriment to Western society
and the future of White people as marxist jews and rioting
niggers.
If I were you, I'd urgently check myself in at a psychiatric
clinic. Or maybe I'd jump in front of a train. But I'd either way
hate to have to live my life knowing I'd have such a sick and
hateful brain.
You are a disgrace to the human species.
Looks like someone is upset. People like you are weak and
tender-minded. Hate is just as beatiful and necessary as love.
Not when it's hatred based upon nothing other than your own feeling
of supremacy. Quite evidently, you must be a narcissistic sociopath,
because only a narcissistic sociopath could utter the words you
did without feeling either remorse or shame.
Post by Lain
This kind of mentality you have is the result of a miserable,
consumer life of being raised on TV-tropes on and degenerate American
pop-culture.
You know NOTHING about me or how I was raised. I haven't even watched
any TV anymore in 15 years, and I'm also not an American. And I am
FAR from being a "consumer" — I OPPOSE consumerism.

I live my life trying to make this world into a better place, one
little step every day. What have YOU done to make this world a better
place (for anyone other than neo-Nazi punks such as yourself)?
--
With respect,
= Aragorn =
Lain
2020-10-11 04:07:53 UTC
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On Sun, 11 Oct 2020 04:16:37 +0200
Post by Aragorn
Post by Lain
On Sat, 10 Oct 2020 23:58:50 +0200
Post by Aragorn
Post by Lain
Nigger lives don't matter. Kike lives don't matter. Only Whites
and Japanese should be allowed to live. Abortion is eugenics, it
gets rid of a large portion of niggers and other subhumans.
Christfags like you are as much a detriment to Western society
and the future of White people as marxist jews and rioting
niggers.
If I were you, I'd urgently check myself in at a psychiatric
clinic. Or maybe I'd jump in front of a train. But I'd either way
hate to have to live my life knowing I'd have such a sick and
hateful brain.
You are a disgrace to the human species.
Looks like someone is upset. People like you are weak and
tender-minded. Hate is just as beatiful and necessary as love.
Not when it's hatred based upon nothing other than your own feeling
of supremacy. Quite evidently, you must be a narcissistic sociopath,
because only a narcissistic sociopath could utter the words you
did without feeling either remorse or shame.
Anyone with a functioning pair of eyes, ears and nose and access to FBI crime statistics can realize how disgusting, subhuman and unworthy of life niggers are. Just because there are a few "smart" ones here and there doesn't make up for the average nigger being an 80 IQ smelly, retarded ape criminal.
Post by Aragorn
Post by Lain
This kind of mentality you have is the result of a miserable,
consumer life of being raised on TV-tropes on and degenerate American
pop-culture.
You know NOTHING about me or how I was raised. I haven't even watched
any TV anymore in 15 years, and I'm also not an American. And I am
FAR from being a "consumer" — I OPPOSE consumerism.
Please enlighten me with more personal details then :3
I can tell from interacting with you that you are a massive niggerfaggot who consumes loads of nigger cum and jewish propaganda. However I applaud your (supposed) 15 years sobriety from your sissy porn addiction. Spiritually you are still equivalent to a TV watching midwit.
Post by Aragorn
I live my life trying to make this world into a better place, one
little step every day. What have YOU done to make this world a better
place (for anyone other than neo-Nazi punks such as yourself)?
My existence in itself is a blessing to this confused world. I have personally cleansed the earth of several glow-in-the-dark CIA niggers by running them over with my van. You are a weak, gay sissy man who injects estrogen directly into his veins while wearing tranny flag colored programming socks. Every breath you take fills this world with the stench of mediocrity, weakness, and poop (presumably from licking dirty jew & nigger assholes clean). I bet you can't even lift a 10lb dumbell more than once because you're such a girly little sissy man whose "man"boobs are bigger around than his biceps. When I was just 9 years old my physician said I had the strength of a 21 year old man. Ever since then I have been training and lifting for Adolf Hitler and preparing to kill jews in the race war. Niggers are so ugly and gay, just like you. I bet you don't even eat meat, sissy. You are a prancing la-la homo man.
Post by Aragorn
--
With respect,
= Aragorn =
Your handle is as lame and gay as your worldview, niggerfaggot
--
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Aragorn
2020-10-11 04:22:19 UTC
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[nothing worth quoting]
Please go fuck yourself, and then do the world a favor by stepping in
front of a speeding freight train.

<plonk>
--
With respect,
= Aragorn =
Lain
2020-10-11 04:25:29 UTC
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Post by Aragorn
Please go fuck yourself, and then do the world a favor by stepping in
front of a speeding freight train.
lol u mad
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Kaoru Yamazaki
2020-10-11 05:43:10 UTC
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Post by Aragorn
[nothing worth quoting]
Please go fuck yourself, and then do the world a favor by stepping in
front of a speeding freight train.
<plonk>
seething?
Kaoru Yamazaki
2020-10-11 05:47:17 UTC
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Post by Aragorn
[nothing worth quoting]
Please go fuck yourself, and then do the world a favor by stepping in
front of a speeding freight train.
<plonk>
I too, believe that Lain's existence itself is a blessing to this
confused world. Soon me and Lain will be running the glow-in-the-dark
CIAniggers over with a van.

:3

--
Sieg Heil
= Yamazaki =
Aragorn
2020-10-11 05:54:55 UTC
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Post by Kaoru Yamazaki
Post by Aragorn
[nothing worth quoting]
Please go fuck yourself, and then do the world a favor by stepping
in front of a speeding freight train.
<plonk>
I too, believe that Lain's existence itself is a blessing to this
confused world. Soon me and Lain will be running the glow-in-the-dark
CIAniggers over with a van.
:3
--
Sieg Heil
= Yamazaki =
You may join your fellow neo-Nazi in my killfile.

<plonk>
--
With respect,
= Aragorn =
Bobbie Sellers
2020-10-11 14:33:40 UTC
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Post by Lain
On Sat, 10 Oct 2020 23:58:50 +0200
And you are a troll maybe even a black
man who beats his wife and children but is very
twisted.
Or maybe you are just a bot, Large Active
Intelligent Network, in which case you need a
reboot after a full shut down.

I suggest everyone reading this add
LAIN to the filter list on their machine and
for those of you who find it easy notify his
Postmaster of abusive content,

bliss and now Plonk
Kaoru Yamazaki
2020-10-11 18:39:41 UTC
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Post by Lain
On Sat, 10 Oct 2020 23:58:50 +0200
    And you are a troll maybe even a black
man who beats his wife and children but is very
twisted.
    Or maybe you are just a bot, Large Active
Intelligent Network, in which case you need a
reboot after a full shut down.
    I suggest everyone reading this add
LAIN to the filter list on their machine and
for those of you who find it easy notify his
Postmaster of abusive content,
    bliss and now Plonk
Lain is not a bot.
Let's all love Lain.

Sieg Heil
= Yamazaki =
gamo
2020-10-12 06:18:38 UTC
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Post by Kaoru Yamazaki
Post by Lain
On Sat, 10 Oct 2020 23:58:50 +0200
     And you are a troll maybe even a black
man who beats his wife and children but is very
twisted.
     Or maybe you are just a bot, Large Active
Intelligent Network, in which case you need a
reboot after a full shut down.
     I suggest everyone reading this add
LAIN to the filter list on their machine and
for those of you who find it easy notify his
Postmaster of abusive content,
     bliss and now Plonk
Lain is not a bot.
Let's all love Lain.
Sieg Heil
= Yamazaki =
I do not recomend to be an advocate of a hater.

HAL
--
http://gamo.sdf-eu.org/
“Aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer
in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoetnt tihng is
taht the frist and lsat ltteer be at the rghit pclae. The rset can be
a toatl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae
the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as
a wlohe.”
Henry Crun
2020-10-12 06:50:52 UTC
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Post by Kaoru Yamazaki
Post by Lain
On Sat, 10 Oct 2020 23:58:50 +0200
     And you are a troll maybe even a black
man who beats his wife and children but is very
twisted.
     Or maybe you are just a bot, Large Active
Intelligent Network, in which case you need a
reboot after a full shut down.
     I suggest everyone reading this add
LAIN to the filter list on their machine and
for those of you who find it easy notify his
Postmaster of abusive content,
     bliss and now Plonk
for an explanation:
c.f. https://alpha.mike-r.com/jargon/P/plonk.html
Post by Kaoru Yamazaki
Lain is not a bot.
Let's all love Lain.
Sieg Heil
= Yamazaki =
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gamo
2020-10-11 08:42:56 UTC
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Post by Lain
Looks like someone is upset. People like you are weak and tender-minded. Hate is just as beatiful and necessary as love. It's the same relationship between destruction and creation. There is nothing sick or wrong about hatred. This kind of mentality you have is the result of a miserable, consumer life of being raised on TV-tropes on and degenerate American pop-culture. Denying emotions and instinct is sick and a sign of the decadent, backwards epoch we live in. Lift weights and read Evola, you miserable soyboy.
Hey, you, iliterate nazi troll, you can compose like Mozart
but you can beat the rythm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Studio_54
--
http://gamo.sdf-eu.org/
“Aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer
in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoetnt tihng is
taht the frist and lsat ltteer be at the rghit pclae. The rset can be
a toatl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae
the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as
a wlohe.”
gamo
2020-10-11 08:59:50 UTC
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Post by gamo
Post by Lain
Looks like someone is upset. People like you are weak and
tender-minded. Hate is just as beatiful and necessary as love. It's
the same relationship between destruction and creation. There is
nothing sick or wrong about hatred. This kind of mentality you have is
the result of a miserable, consumer life of being raised on TV-tropes
on and degenerate American pop-culture. Denying emotions and instinct
is sick and a sign of the decadent, backwards epoch we live in. Lift
weights and read Evola, you miserable soyboy.
Hey, you, iliterate nazi troll, you can compose like Mozart
but you can beat the rythm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Studio_54
... and I really mean you CAN'T

Well, I have serious doubts you can manage to differ
synthetic sound from a real one.
--
http://gamo.sdf-eu.org/
“Aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer
in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoetnt tihng is
taht the frist and lsat ltteer be at the rghit pclae. The rset can be
a toatl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae
the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as
a wlohe.”
Kaoru Yamazaki
2020-10-11 09:53:44 UTC
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Are you a spic?
gamo
2020-10-11 11:00:43 UTC
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Post by Kaoru Yamazaki
Are you a spic?
I don't understand well you.
I could be GPT-3.
--
http://gamo.sdf-eu.org/
“Aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer
in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoetnt tihng is
taht the frist and lsat ltteer be at the rghit pclae. The rset can be
a toatl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae
the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as
a wlohe.”
Lain
2020-10-11 10:12:28 UTC
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On Sun, 11 Oct 2020 10:42:56 +0200
Post by gamo
Post by Lain
Looks like someone is upset. People like you are weak and tender-minded. Hate is just as beatiful and necessary as love. It's the same relationship between destruction and creation. There is nothing sick or wrong about hatred. This kind of mentality you have is the result of a miserable, consumer life of being raised on TV-tropes on and degenerate American pop-culture. Denying emotions and instinct is sick and a sign of the decadent, backwards epoch we live in. Lift weights and read Evola, you miserable soyboy.
Hey, you, iliterate nazi troll, you can compose like Mozart
but you can beat the rythm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Studio_54
--
http://gamo.sdf-eu.org/
“Aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer
in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoetnt tihng is
taht the frist and lsat ltteer be at the rghit pclae. The rset can be
a toatl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae
the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as
a wlohe.”
You should learn how to spell and compose basic sentences before making a fool out of yourself, you retarded, unfunny, fat mexican nigger.
--
Lain <***@wired.net>
Henry Crun
2020-10-11 10:38:49 UTC
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Post by Lain
You should learn how to spell and compose basic sentences before making a fool out of yourself, you retarded, unfunny, fat mexican nigger.
Plonk
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Kaoru Yamazaki
2020-10-11 11:51:51 UTC
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Post by Lain
You should learn how to spell and compose basic sentences before
making a fool out of yourself, you retarded, unfunny, fat mexican nigger.
Plonk
According to your homepage, you are a dirty jewish jew, for you display
the date in Hebr*w.
Is this true?

Sieg Heil
= Yamazaki =
gamo
2020-10-11 13:24:09 UTC
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Post by Kaoru Yamazaki
Post by Lain
You should learn how to spell and compose basic sentences before
making a fool out of yourself, you retarded, unfunny, fat mexican nigger.
Plonk
According to your homepage, you are a dirty jewish jew, for you display
the date in Hebr*w.
Is this true?
Sieg Heil
= Yamazaki =
You are responding to Henry for me, I think.

I have a fortune cookie for you:

The human race has one really effective weapon, and that is laughter.
-- Mark Twain

And if you do fortune -m race
got more fun.

Salutations!
--
http://gamo.sdf-eu.org/
“Aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer
in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoetnt tihng is
taht the frist and lsat ltteer be at the rghit pclae. The rset can be
a toatl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae
the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as
a wlohe.”
gamo
2020-10-11 11:05:37 UTC
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Post by Lain
On Sun, 11 Oct 2020 10:42:56 +0200
Post by gamo
Post by Lain
Looks like someone is upset. People like you are weak and tender-minded. Hate is just as beatiful and necessary as love. It's the same relationship between destruction and creation. There is nothing sick or wrong about hatred. This kind of mentality you have is the result of a miserable, consumer life of being raised on TV-tropes on and degenerate American pop-culture. Denying emotions and instinct is sick and a sign of the decadent, backwards epoch we live in. Lift weights and read Evola, you miserable soyboy.
Hey, you, iliterate nazi troll, you can compose like Mozart
but you can beat the rythm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Studio_54
--
http://gamo.sdf-eu.org/
“Aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer
in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoetnt tihng is
taht the frist and lsat ltteer be at the rghit pclae. The rset can be
a toatl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae
the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as
a wlohe.”
You should learn how to spell and compose basic sentences before making a fool out of yourself, you retarded, unfunny, fat mexican nigger.
You iliterate, Pancho Villa and his chaotic army could burn your gothic
castle only for fun and the half of money!
--
http://gamo.sdf-eu.org/
“Aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer
in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoetnt tihng is
taht the frist and lsat ltteer be at the rghit pclae. The rset can be
a toatl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae
the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as
a wlohe.”
Kaoru Yamazaki
2020-10-10 22:39:35 UTC
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Post by Aragorn
Post by Lain
On Fri, 9 Oct 2020 11:43:50 -0700
Post by Big Bad Bob
(WHITE LIVES MATTER, TOO. There. I said it. And UNBORN LIVES MATTER)
Nigger lives don't matter. Kike lives don't matter. Only Whites and
Japanese should be allowed to live. Abortion is eugenics, it gets rid
of a large portion of niggers and other subhumans. Christfags like
you are as much a detriment to Western society and the future of
White people as marxist jews and rioting niggers.
If I were you, I'd urgently check myself in at a psychiatric clinic. Or
maybe I'd jump in front of a train. But I'd either way hate to have to
live my life knowing I'd have such a sick and hateful brain.
You are a disgrace to the human species.
seething
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