Update Firefox browser

[Adam]

I'm getting the following message...


https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/welcome/19/
=====================================================================
Firefox
You’re on an older version of Firefox
Update your Firefox browser

Older versions of Firefox may start to have problems on January 14,
2025. A root certificate will expire, causing some preferences and other
features to stop working. Update to get the best possible browsing
experience. Read more about this change
Update now
Firefox Privacy Notice
Usually takes 2–3 minutes
=====================================================================


How to safely update Firefox without messing up Ubuntu 16.04 ?
[I prefer a stable version over the latest and greatest version.]

How to try out Firefox versions without installing?

Downloads for Linux 64-bit here...
https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/download/thanks/
[But, where are the instructions?]

No Snap or Flatpak for me.

[Paul]

Post by Adam
I'm getting the following message...
https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/welcome/19/
=====================================================================
Firefox
You’re on an older version of Firefox
Update your Firefox browser
Older versions of Firefox may start to have problems on January 14, 2025. A root certificate will expire, causing some preferences and other features to stop working. Update to get the best possible browsing experience. Read more about this change
Update now
Firefox Privacy Notice
Usually takes 2–3 minutes
=====================================================================
How to safely update Firefox without messing up Ubuntu 16.04 ?
[I prefer a stable version over the latest and greatest version.]
How to try out Firefox versions without installing?
Downloads for Linux 64-bit here...
https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/download/thanks/
[But, where are the instructions?]
No Snap or Flatpak for me.

inxi -F

cat /etc/lsb-release

Figure out where you are and
why the version isn't as high as you would like.

A guess is that 16.04.6 supported x86 and x64 and
16.04.7 is only x64 version. That's one of the reasons
I'm looking for INXI output so I can understand what
options your CPU choice offer. For example, if I was
running on my AthlonXP 3200, that's a 32-bit only CPU
and might be missing some SSE or other, and some softwares
have higher requirements than they used to have and might
not run.

I computed the support issue, by looking at this dir.
You can see they only support the top version there,
and 16.04.6 is 386 and 16.04.7 is amd64. Both portions
would have shown 16.04.7 if support had continued for
both bitnesses.

https://mirror.csclub.uwaterloo.ca/ubuntu-releases/16.04.7/

For the absolute best service, x64 (and multilib if you want),
might help your situation. How do you easily go from i386 to
amd64 ? No idea where to start. I don't think that transition
case is automated. The most likely support case is bumping along
support on a fixed bitness of OS.

*******

Then after you bump that along, there is this sort of suggestion,
but this may be more intrusive than you would like. Again, I don't
know the details. It could be that this is the only way to make
it to ten years of full support.

https://support.mozilla.org/bm/questions/1354145

"Did some more research and discovered that Ubuntu offers Extended Security Maintenance for 16.04, free for personal use.

Ubuntu Advantage for Infrastructure https://ubuntu.com/advantage

I am installing now.
"

As for the notion of using a handcart to roll along the railroad
track of life, you can do that, but you have to be good. There
are Arch Wiki articles, Gentoo articles, Mozilla articles,
on fiddling stuff.

If you took this one:

http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/131.0.3/linux-i686/en-US/

then that is a Release stream as far as I know, and it *might* reuse
your current Profile folder (preventing it from going backwards later).

If you took this one, this is Extended Support and a different stream
than yours, so it should create a brand new profile folder. You could unpack the
tarball and try running "firefox" from the bin dir or whatever.

http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/128.3.1esr/linux-i686/en-US/

At some point, they may port to GTK4 and that could cause a dependency issue
for you. GTK is apparently used for the window frame of Firefox.

And there's an assumption there, that you have a browser that works
good enough to get there. We had some WinXP users in such a decrepit state,
we were looking at wget or curl to rescue themselves :-/ Then the damn curl site
starts using https only, closing one more door. There could have been
a few beached whales that day, people whose browsers were then shit outta luck.
Never allow your maintenance level to dip that low :-) When you know it's
busted and on fire and auguring in, that's not the time to go back to sleep.

Visiting here with the current browser, might give you some idea
just how broken a 19 is now. The scan isn't as good as it used to be,
and that is likely because of the bandwidth that each client visit was causing.
It can identify issues that can't be fixed with certs alone.

https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/viewMyClient.html

Paul

[Marco Moock]

Post by Adam
How to safely update Firefox without messing up Ubuntu 16.04 ?

This system is EoL since 2021. Upgrade to a current version or another
OS.
If you don't like snap, switch to Debian, Mint, Slackware, etc.

[Adam]

Post by Marco Moock

Post by Adam
How to safely update Firefox without messing up Ubuntu 16.04 ?

This system is EoL since 2021. Upgrade to a current version or another
OS.
If you don't like snap, switch to Debian, Mint, Slackware, etc.

Thanks, I'm looking into 22.04 LTS now. Already tried Mint 21
(Vanessa). Also tried Mint 21.x, USB Live with persistence did not work
for some reason.

[Marco Moock]

Post by Adam
I'm looking into 22.04 LTS now.

Use 24.04.

[Paul]

Post by Marco Moock

Post by Adam
I'm looking into 22.04 LTS now.

Use 24.04.

No. He's looking at Mint, and he doesn't want Snaps.
The latest 6GB UB DVD is an insult to intelligence.
You've downloaded 6GB worth of Snaps, and some
ordinary utilities are missing. Give me a break.
The Snaps have turned into a vanity project.
The dude running the show, thinks he can craft
handcuffs with this stuff. Forget it.

The only problem with going too far forward on Mint,
is the impact of the newer kernel. Maybe an older
graphics device does not work. The 5.15 kernel was pretty
good in that regard. It may require testing
a couple Mints, to see which one is comfortable
for the hardware.

*******

Thread on persistence.

https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=418031

Manually add persistence to a Rufus stick. the message here,
is to add a partition to the end. (Usually) the name of the
partition is important. I can't be positive the name of the
partition used here, is correct.

https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?p=2448098#p2448098

Without using windows, I would think the Ubuntu 16.04 already
on the computer, should provide the materials (via gparted)
to make some changes. I would verify this works, but my collection
of USB sticks is pretty worn, and I don't know if the current one
would survive this. I would simulate in VirtualBox, except
VirtualBox refuses to boot from virtual USB images.

It's really better to install test OSes on some old hard drive
you've got. My local computer store has the 128GB version of
this for $20. I have about four of the 256GB ones of those,
and I am putting scratch OSes on them for test. And the 256 cost
about $40 each. When you work out the TBW of those, they're
about as expensive as a Samsung, but the thing is, you can
"buy a smaller quantity of storage" that way. Samsung is unlikely
to offer a 128GB drive today. And 128GB is plenty of room for
a Mint install.

https://www.lexar.com/product/ssd-ns100/

Paul

[Adam]

Post by Paul

Post by Marco Moock

Post by Adam
I'm looking into 22.04 LTS now.

Use 24.04.

No. He's looking at Mint, and he doesn't want Snaps.
The latest 6GB UB DVD is an insult to intelligence.
You've downloaded 6GB worth of Snaps, and some
ordinary utilities are missing. Give me a break.
The Snaps have turned into a vanity project.
The dude running the show, thinks he can craft
handcuffs with this stuff. Forget it.
The only problem with going too far forward on Mint,
is the impact of the newer kernel. Maybe an older
graphics device does not work. The 5.15 kernel was pretty
good in that regard. It may require testing
a couple Mints, to see which one is comfortable
for the hardware.
*******
Thread on persistence.
https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=418031
Manually add persistence to a Rufus stick. the message here,
is to add a partition to the end. (Usually) the name of the
partition is important. I can't be positive the name of the
partition used here, is correct.
https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?p=2448098#p2448098
Without using windows, I would think the Ubuntu 16.04 already
on the computer, should provide the materials (via gparted)
to make some changes. I would verify this works, but my collection
of USB sticks is pretty worn, and I don't know if the current one
would survive this. I would simulate in VirtualBox, except
VirtualBox refuses to boot from virtual USB images.
It's really better to install test OSes on some old hard drive
you've got. My local computer store has the 128GB version of
this for $20. I have about four of the 256GB ones of those,
and I am putting scratch OSes on them for test. And the 256 cost
about $40 each. When you work out the TBW of those, they're
about as expensive as a Samsung, but the thing is, you can
"buy a smaller quantity of storage" that way. Samsung is unlikely
to offer a 128GB drive today. And 128GB is plenty of room for
a Mint install.
https://www.lexar.com/product/ssd-ns100/
Paul

Thanks, Guru Paul !!

Just go with Mint 21.3 (Virginia) on HDD then. Size of my /home (not /
root) partition is the problem. :-)

Ubuntu 16.04 keeps silently truncating long filenames and silently
removing special characters (like semicolon). I often save .PNG, .MOV &
.MP4 files from Firefox and/or GIMP. And, need to confirm in Nautilus
that the filename is as intended.

[Adam]

Post by Adam

Post by Paul

Post by Marco Moock

Post by Adam
I'm looking into 22.04 LTS now.

Use 24.04.

No. He's looking at Mint, and he doesn't want Snaps.
The latest 6GB UB DVD is an insult to intelligence.
You've downloaded 6GB worth of Snaps, and some
ordinary utilities are missing. Give me a break.
The Snaps have turned into a vanity project.
The dude running the show, thinks he can craft
handcuffs with this stuff. Forget it.
The only problem with going too far forward on Mint,
is the impact of the newer kernel. Maybe an older
graphics device does not work. The 5.15 kernel was pretty
good in that regard. It may require testing
a couple Mints, to see which one is comfortable
for the hardware.
*******
Thread on persistence.
https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=418031
Manually add persistence to a Rufus stick. the message here,
is to add a partition to the end. (Usually) the name of the
partition is important. I can't be positive the name of the
partition used here, is correct.
https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?p=2448098#p2448098
Without using windows, I would think the Ubuntu 16.04 already
on the computer, should provide the materials (via gparted)
to make some changes. I would verify this works, but my collection
of USB sticks is pretty worn, and I don't know if the current one
would survive this. I would simulate in VirtualBox, except
VirtualBox refuses to boot from virtual USB images.
It's really better to install test OSes on some old hard drive
you've got. My local computer store has the 128GB version of
this for $20. I have about four of the 256GB ones of those,
and I am putting scratch OSes on them for test. And the 256 cost
about $40 each. When you work out the TBW of those, they're
about as expensive as a Samsung, but the thing is, you can
"buy a smaller quantity of storage" that way. Samsung is unlikely
to offer a 128GB drive today. And 128GB is plenty of room for
a Mint install.
https://www.lexar.com/product/ssd-ns100/
Paul

Thanks, Guru Paul !!
Just go with Mint 21.3 (Virginia) on HDD then. Size of my /home (not /
root) partition is the problem. :-)
Ubuntu 16.04 keeps silently truncating long filenames and silently
removing special characters (like colon). I often save .PNG, .MOV &
.MP4 files from Firefox and/or GIMP. And, need to confirm in Nautilus
that the filename is as intended.

Correction...

Replaced "semicolon" with "colon" above.

Ubuntu 16.04 keeps silently truncating long filenames and silently
removing special characters (like colon).

[Hoppy]

Post by Adam

Post by Adam

Post by Paul

Post by Marco Moock

Post by Adam
I'm looking into 22.04 LTS now.

Use 24.04.

No. He's looking at Mint, and he doesn't want Snaps.
The latest 6GB UB DVD is an insult to intelligence.
You've downloaded 6GB worth of Snaps, and some
ordinary utilities are missing. Give me a break.
The Snaps have turned into a vanity project.
The dude running the show, thinks he can craft
handcuffs with this stuff. Forget it.
The only problem with going too far forward on Mint,
is the impact of the newer kernel. Maybe an older
graphics device does not work. The 5.15 kernel was pretty
good in that regard. It may require testing
a couple Mints, to see which one is comfortable
for the hardware.
*******
Thread on persistence.
https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=418031
Manually add persistence to a Rufus stick. the message here,
is to add a partition to the end. (Usually) the name of the
partition is important. I can't be positive the name of the
partition used here, is correct.
https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?p=2448098#p2448098
Without using windows, I would think the Ubuntu 16.04 already
on the computer, should provide the materials (via gparted)
to make some changes. I would verify this works, but my collection
of USB sticks is pretty worn, and I don't know if the current one
would survive this. I would simulate in VirtualBox, except
VirtualBox refuses to boot from virtual USB images.
It's really better to install test OSes on some old hard drive
you've got. My local computer store has the 128GB version of
this for $20. I have about four of the 256GB ones of those,
and I am putting scratch OSes on them for test. And the 256 cost
about $40 each. When you work out the TBW of those, they're
about as expensive as a Samsung, but the thing is, you can
"buy a smaller quantity of storage" that way. Samsung is unlikely
to offer a 128GB drive today. And 128GB is plenty of room for
a Mint install.
https://www.lexar.com/product/ssd-ns100/
    Paul

Thanks, Guru Paul !!
Just go with Mint 21.3 (Virginia) on HDD then.  Size of my /home (not /
root) partition is the problem.  :-)
Ubuntu 16.04 keeps silently truncating long filenames and silently
removing special characters (like colon).  I often save .PNG, .MOV &
.MP4 files from Firefox and/or GIMP.  And, need to confirm in Nautilus
that the filename is as intended.

Correction...
Replaced "semicolon" with "colon" above.
Ubuntu 16.04 keeps silently truncating long filenames and silently
removing special characters (like colon).

You said earlier that "I prefer a stable version over the latest and
greatest version."

https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/enterprise/ has the Extended
Support Release - ESR

That's all I've used for many years. Never had problems with ESR.

[Adam]

Post by Hoppy

Post by Adam

Post by Adam

Post by Paul

Post by Marco Moock

Post by Adam
I'm looking into 22.04 LTS now.

Use 24.04.

No. He's looking at Mint, and he doesn't want Snaps.
The latest 6GB UB DVD is an insult to intelligence.
You've downloaded 6GB worth of Snaps, and some
ordinary utilities are missing. Give me a break.
The Snaps have turned into a vanity project.
The dude running the show, thinks he can craft
handcuffs with this stuff. Forget it.
The only problem with going too far forward on Mint,
is the impact of the newer kernel. Maybe an older
graphics device does not work. The 5.15 kernel was pretty
good in that regard. It may require testing
a couple Mints, to see which one is comfortable
for the hardware.
*******
Thread on persistence.
https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=418031
Manually add persistence to a Rufus stick. the message here,
is to add a partition to the end. (Usually) the name of the
partition is important. I can't be positive the name of the
partition used here, is correct.
https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?p=2448098#p2448098
Without using windows, I would think the Ubuntu 16.04 already
on the computer, should provide the materials (via gparted)
to make some changes. I would verify this works, but my collection
of USB sticks is pretty worn, and I don't know if the current one
would survive this. I would simulate in VirtualBox, except
VirtualBox refuses to boot from virtual USB images.
It's really better to install test OSes on some old hard drive
you've got. My local computer store has the 128GB version of
this for $20. I have about four of the 256GB ones of those,
and I am putting scratch OSes on them for test. And the 256 cost
about $40 each. When you work out the TBW of those, they're
about as expensive as a Samsung, but the thing is, you can
"buy a smaller quantity of storage" that way. Samsung is unlikely
to offer a 128GB drive today. And 128GB is plenty of room for
a Mint install.
https://www.lexar.com/product/ssd-ns100/
Paul

Thanks, Guru Paul !!
Just go with Mint 21.3 (Virginia) on HDD then. Size of my /home (not /
root) partition is the problem. :-)
Ubuntu 16.04 keeps silently truncating long filenames and silently
removing special characters (like colon). I often save .PNG, .MOV &
.MP4 files from Firefox and/or GIMP. And, need to confirm in Nautilus
that the filename is as intended.

Correction...
Replaced "semicolon" with "colon" above.
Ubuntu 16.04 keeps silently truncating long filenames and silently
removing special characters (like colon).

You said earlier that "I prefer a stable version over the latest and
greatest version."
https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/enterprise/ has the Extended
Support Release - ESR
That's all I've used for many years. Never had problems with ESR.

I get nervous when I see the word "enterprise". :-)

Is Firefox going the corporate route (like Red Hat)?

[Hoppy]

Post by Hoppy

Post by Adam

Post by Adam

Post by Paul

Post by Marco Moock

Post by Adam
I'm looking into 22.04 LTS now.

Use 24.04.

No. He's looking at Mint, and he doesn't want Snaps.
The latest 6GB UB DVD is an insult to intelligence.
You've downloaded 6GB worth of Snaps, and some
ordinary utilities are missing. Give me a break.
The Snaps have turned into a vanity project.
The dude running the show, thinks he can craft
handcuffs with this stuff. Forget it.
The only problem with going too far forward on Mint,
is the impact of the newer kernel. Maybe an older
graphics device does not work. The 5.15 kernel was pretty
good in that regard. It may require testing
a couple Mints, to see which one is comfortable
for the hardware.
*******
Thread on persistence.
https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=418031
Manually add persistence to a Rufus stick. the message here,
is to add a partition to the end. (Usually) the name of the
partition is important. I can't be positive the name of the
partition used here, is correct.
https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?p=2448098#p2448098
Without using windows, I would think the Ubuntu 16.04 already
on the computer, should provide the materials (via gparted)
to make some changes. I would verify this works, but my collection
of USB sticks is pretty worn, and I don't know if the current one
would survive this. I would simulate in VirtualBox, except
VirtualBox refuses to boot from virtual USB images.
It's really better to install test OSes on some old hard drive
you've got. My local computer store has the 128GB version of
this for $20. I have about four of the 256GB ones of those,
and I am putting scratch OSes on them for test. And the 256 cost
about $40 each. When you work out the TBW of those, they're
about as expensive as a Samsung, but the thing is, you can
"buy a smaller quantity of storage" that way. Samsung is unlikely
to offer a 128GB drive today. And 128GB is plenty of room for
a Mint install.
https://www.lexar.com/product/ssd-ns100/
    Paul

Thanks, Guru Paul !!
Just go with Mint 21.3 (Virginia) on HDD then.  Size of my /home (not /
root) partition is the problem.  :-)
Ubuntu 16.04 keeps silently truncating long filenames and silently
removing special characters (like colon).  I often save .PNG, .MOV &
.MP4 files from Firefox and/or GIMP.  And, need to confirm in Nautilus
that the filename is as intended.

Correction...
Replaced "semicolon" with "colon" above.
Ubuntu 16.04 keeps silently truncating long filenames and silently
removing special characters (like colon).

You said earlier that "I prefer a stable version over the latest and
greatest version."
https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/enterprise/ has the Extended
Support Release - ESR
That's all I've used for many years. Never had problems with ESR.

I get nervous when I see the word "enterprise".  :-)
Is Firefox going the corporate route (like Red Hat)?

No, ESR is focused on stability over trendiness.

Rapid Release: receives major updates every four weeks and minor updates
such as crash fixes and security fixes as needed during those four weeks.

Extended Support Release (ESR): receives major updates on average every
52 weeks with minor updates such as crash fixes, security fixes and
policy updates as needed, but at least every four weeks.

[Paul]

Post by Adam

Post by Adam

Post by Paul

Post by Marco Moock

Post by Adam
I'm looking into 22.04 LTS now.

Use 24.04.

No. He's looking at Mint, and he doesn't want Snaps.
The latest 6GB UB DVD is an insult to intelligence.
You've downloaded 6GB worth of Snaps, and some
ordinary utilities are missing. Give me a break.
The Snaps have turned into a vanity project.
The dude running the show, thinks he can craft
handcuffs with this stuff. Forget it.
The only problem with going too far forward on Mint,
is the impact of the newer kernel. Maybe an older
graphics device does not work. The 5.15 kernel was pretty
good in that regard. It may require testing
a couple Mints, to see which one is comfortable
for the hardware.
*******
Thread on persistence.
https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=418031
Manually add persistence to a Rufus stick. the message here,
is to add a partition to the end. (Usually) the name of the
partition is important. I can't be positive the name of the
partition used here, is correct.
https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?p=2448098#p2448098
Without using windows, I would think the Ubuntu 16.04 already
on the computer, should provide the materials (via gparted)
to make some changes. I would verify this works, but my collection
of USB sticks is pretty worn, and I don't know if the current one
would survive this. I would simulate in VirtualBox, except
VirtualBox refuses to boot from virtual USB images.
It's really better to install test OSes on some old hard drive
you've got. My local computer store has the 128GB version of
this for $20. I have about four of the 256GB ones of those,
and I am putting scratch OSes on them for test. And the 256 cost
about $40 each. When you work out the TBW of those, they're
about as expensive as a Samsung, but the thing is, you can
"buy a smaller quantity of storage" that way. Samsung is unlikely
to offer a 128GB drive today. And 128GB is plenty of room for
a Mint install.
https://www.lexar.com/product/ssd-ns100/
    Paul

Thanks, Guru Paul !!
Just go with Mint 21.3 (Virginia) on HDD then.  Size of my /home (not /
root) partition is the problem.  :-)
Ubuntu 16.04 keeps silently truncating long filenames and silently
removing special characters (like colon).  I often save .PNG, .MOV &
.MP4 files from Firefox and/or GIMP.  And, need to confirm in Nautilus
that the filename is as intended.

Correction...
Replaced "semicolon" with "colon" above.
Ubuntu 16.04 keeps silently truncating long filenames and silently removing special characters (like colon).

"The max filename length is 255 bytes. Found in the wiki page for ext4.
And a maximum path of 4096 characters."

The most likely type to challenge this is .mp3 files with tags inserted in the filename.

And web browsers are the most "bomb-worthy" devices, as they can store
things in a file system which are not compatible with it. If I store
a link from the Hungarian Embassy on my computer, there are tools that
malfunction when they hit the unicode involved. There are even unicode
entries that Thunderbird cannot display, and the characters are not
even replaced by square boxes.

*******

Another picture of a USB boot stick with a persistent partition
(rather than a persistence file, like the old days). what is weird
about this one, is it is GPT but without an ESP for UEFI. As
I would expect, the label is "casper-rw". And the important thing
in this example, is gnome-disks lists the thing as Linux Persistence
implying somehow that at the GPT level it is identified that way.
I have been unable to reproduce the persistence string on this.
Mine works, but it won't display exactly like this one.

Loading Image... # writable or casper-rw as the label

I made a Linux Mint 21.3 stick, set up the persistent partition manually
and it seems to be working. The casper-rw partition has an upper and
a work folder, and the upper folder had the testfile.txt that I put
in my home, while the USB stick was booted.

$ inxi -F # 21.3 on USB stick, casper-rw labeled EXT4 partition on the stick too
System:
Host: mint Kernel: 5.15.0-91-generic x86_64 bits: 64
Desktop: Cinnamon 6.0.4 Distro: Linux Mint 21.3 Virginia
Machine:
Type: Desktop System: ASUS
Mobo: ASUSTeK model: ROG STRIX B550-F GAMING WIFI II v: Rev X.0x
serial: <superuser required> UEFI: American Megatrends v: 3607
date: 03/22/2024
CPU:
Info: 16-core model: AMD Ryzen 9 5950X bits: 64 type: MT MCP cache:
L2: 8 MiB
Speed (MHz): avg: 3010 min/max: 2200/3400 <=== old OS, it does not understand my CPU
Graphics:
Device-1: NVIDIA GP107 [GeForce GTX 1050 Ti] driver: nouveau v: kernel
Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.4 driver: X: loaded: modesetting
unloaded: fbdev,vesa gpu: nouveau resolution: 1920x1080~75Hz
OpenGL: renderer: NV137 v: 4.3 Mesa 23.0.4-0ubuntu1~22.04.1 <=== accelerated ???
Audio:
Device-1: NVIDIA GP107GL High Definition Audio driver: snd_hda_intel
Device-2: AMD Starship/Matisse HD Audio driver: snd_hda_intel
Sound Server-1: ALSA v: k5.15.0-91-generic running: yes
Sound Server-2: PulseAudio v: 15.99.1 running: yes
Sound Server-3: PipeWire v: 0.3.48 running: yes
Network:
Device-1: Intel Ethernet I225-V driver: igc
IF: enp4s0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex:
Drives:
Local Storage: total: 295.77 GiB used: 3 GiB (1.0%)
ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Lexar model: SSD NS100 256GB size: 238.47 GiB
ID-2: /dev/sdb type: USB vendor: SanDisk model: Cruzer Glide size: 57.3 GiB
Partition:
ID-1: / size: 31.33 GiB used: 55.4 MiB (0.2%) fs: overlay source: ERR-102
Swap:
Alert: No swap data was found.
Sensors:
System Temperatures: cpu: N/A mobo: N/A gpu: nouveau temp: 41.0 C
Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A gpu: nouveau fan: 0 <=== HW not in lm_sensors
Info:
Processes: 471 Uptime: 4m Memory: 125.7 GiB used: 2.09 GiB (1.7%)
Shell: Bash inxi: 3.3.13

$ inxi -F # LinuxMint 22 on my cheap SSD (no casper-rw partition)
System:
Host: FLYPAPER Kernel: 6.8.0-39-generic arch: x86_64 bits: 64
Desktop: Cinnamon v: 6.2.7 Distro: Linux Mint 22 Wilma
Machine:
Type: Desktop System: ASUS
Mobo: ASUSTeK model: ROG STRIX B550-F GAMING WIFI II v: Rev X.0x
serial: <superuser required> BIOS: American Megatrends v: 3607
date: 03/22/2024
CPU:
Info: 16-core model: AMD Ryzen 9 5950X bits: 64 type: MT MCP cache:
L2: 8 MiB
Speed (MHz): avg: 2349 min/max: 2200/5083 <=== knows about the "good core" scheme
Graphics:
Device-1: NVIDIA GP107 [GeForce GTX 1050 Ti] driver: nvidia v: 535.183.01
Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 21.1.11 with: Xwayland v: 23.2.6 driver: X:
loaded: modesetting,nouveau,nvidia unloaded: fbdev,vesa
gpu: nvidia,nvidia-nvswitch resolution: 1: 1920x1080~75Hz 2: N/A
API: EGL v: 1.5 drivers: kms_swrast,nvidia,swrast
platforms: gbm,x11,surfaceless,device
API: OpenGL v: 4.6.0 compat-v: 4.5 vendor: nvidia mesa v: 535.183.01
renderer: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti/PCIe/SSE2 <=== HW accel
Audio:
Device-1: NVIDIA GP107GL High Definition Audio driver: snd_hda_intel
Device-2: AMD Starship/Matisse HD Audio driver: snd_hda_intel
API: ALSA v: k6.8.0-39-generic status: kernel-api
Server-1: PipeWire v: 1.0.5 status: active
Network:
Device-1: Intel Ethernet I225-V driver: igc
IF: enp4s0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex:
Drives:
Local Storage: total: 295.77 GiB used: 24.64 GiB (8.3%)
ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Lexar model: SSD NS100 256GB size: 238.47 GiB
ID-2: /dev/sdb vendor: SanDisk model: Cruzer Glide size: 57.3 GiB type: USB
Partition:
ID-1: / size: 32.13 GiB used: 21.65 GiB (67.4%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda2
Swap:
Alert: No swap data was found.
Sensors:
System Temperatures: cpu: 35.5 C mobo: N/A gpu: nvidia temp: 41 C
Fan Speeds (rpm): N/A gpu: nvidia fan: 0%
Info:
Memory: total: 128 GiB note: est. available: 125.7 GiB used: 2.37 GiB (1.9%)
Processes: 514 Uptime: 2m Shell: Bash inxi: 3.3.34

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[Picture] Shows changes to USB stick for persistent partition operation

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Paul

[Bobbie Sellers]

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Post by Adam
I'm looking into 22.04 LTS now.

Use 24.04.

No. He's looking at Mint, and he doesn't want Snaps.
The latest 6GB UB DVD is an insult to intelligence.
You've downloaded 6GB worth of Snaps, and some
ordinary utilities are missing. Give me a break.
The Snaps have turned into a vanity project.
The dude running the show, thinks he can craft
handcuffs with this stuff. Forget it.
The only problem with going too far forward on Mint,
is the impact of the newer kernel. Maybe an older
graphics device does not work. The 5.15 kernel was pretty
good in that regard. It may require testing
a couple Mints, to see which one is comfortable
for the hardware.
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Thread on persistence.
https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=418031
Manually add persistence to a Rufus stick. the message here,
is to add a partition to the end. (Usually) the name of the
partition is important. I can't be positive the name of the
partition used here, is correct.
https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?p=2448098#p2448098
Without using windows, I would think the Ubuntu 16.04 already
on the computer, should provide the materials (via gparted)
to make some changes. I would verify this works, but my collection
of USB sticks is pretty worn, and I don't know if the current one
would survive this. I would simulate in VirtualBox, except
VirtualBox refuses to boot from virtual USB images.
It's really better to install test OSes on some old hard drive
you've got. My local computer store has the 128GB version of
this for $20. I have about four of the 256GB ones of those,
and I am putting scratch OSes on them for test. And the 256 cost
about $40 each. When you work out the TBW of those, they're
about as expensive as a Samsung, but the thing is, you can
"buy a smaller quantity of storage" that way. Samsung is unlikely
to offer a 128GB drive today. And 128GB is plenty of room for
a Mint install.
https://www.lexar.com/product/ssd-ns100/
    Paul

Thanks, Guru Paul !!
Just go with Mint 21.3 (Virginia) on HDD then.  Size of my /home (not /
root) partition is the problem.  :-)
Ubuntu 16.04 keeps silently truncating long filenames and silently
removing special characters (like colon).  I often save .PNG, .MOV &
.MP4 files from Firefox and/or GIMP.  And, need to confirm in Nautilus
that the filename is as intended.

Correction...
Replaced "semicolon" with "colon" above.
Ubuntu 16.04 keeps silently truncating long filenames and silently removing special characters (like colon).

"The max filename length is 255 bytes. Found in the wiki page for ext4.
And a maximum path of 4096 characters."
The most likely type to challenge this is .mp3 files with tags inserted in the filename.
And web browsers are the most "bomb-worthy" devices, as they can store
things in a file system which are not compatible with it. If I store
a link from the Hungarian Embassy on my computer, there are tools that
malfunction when they hit the unicode involved. There are even unicode
entries that Thunderbird cannot display, and the characters are not
even replaced by square boxes.
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Another picture of a USB boot stick with a persistent partition
(rather than a persistence file, like the old days). what is weird
about this one, is it is GPT but without an ESP for UEFI. As
I would expect, the label is "casper-rw". And the important thing
in this example, is gnome-disks lists the thing as Linux Persistence
implying somehow that at the GPT level it is identified that way.
I have been unable to reproduce the persistence string on this.
Mine works, but it won't display exactly like this one.
https://i.sstatic.net/30YL8.png # writable or casper-rw as the label
I made a Linux Mint 21.3 stick, set up the persistent partition manually
and it seems to be working. The casper-rw partition has an upper and
a work folder, and the upper folder had the testfile.txt that I put
in my home, while the USB stick was booted.
$ inxi -F # 21.3 on USB stick, casper-rw labeled EXT4 partition on the stick too
Host: mint Kernel: 5.15.0-91-generic x86_64 bits: 64
Desktop: Cinnamon 6.0.4 Distro: Linux Mint 21.3 Virginia
Type: Desktop System: ASUS
Mobo: ASUSTeK model: ROG STRIX B550-F GAMING WIFI II v: Rev X.0x
serial: <superuser required> UEFI: American Megatrends v: 3607
date: 03/22/2024
L2: 8 MiB
Speed (MHz): avg: 3010 min/max: 2200/3400 <=== old OS, it does not understand my CPU
Device-1: NVIDIA GP107 [GeForce GTX 1050 Ti] driver: nouveau v: kernel
Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.4 driver: X: loaded: modesetting
unloaded: fbdev,vesa gpu: nouveau resolution: 1920x1080~75Hz
OpenGL: renderer: NV137 v: 4.3 Mesa 23.0.4-0ubuntu1~22.04.1 <=== accelerated ???
Device-1: NVIDIA GP107GL High Definition Audio driver: snd_hda_intel
Device-2: AMD Starship/Matisse HD Audio driver: snd_hda_intel
Sound Server-1: ALSA v: k5.15.0-91-generic running: yes
Sound Server-2: PulseAudio v: 15.99.1 running: yes
Sound Server-3: PipeWire v: 0.3.48 running: yes
Device-1: Intel Ethernet I225-V driver: igc
Local Storage: total: 295.77 GiB used: 3 GiB (1.0%)
ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Lexar model: SSD NS100 256GB size: 238.47 GiB
ID-2: /dev/sdb type: USB vendor: SanDisk model: Cruzer Glide size: 57.3 GiB
ID-1: / size: 31.33 GiB used: 55.4 MiB (0.2%) fs: overlay source: ERR-102
Alert: No swap data was found.
System Temperatures: cpu: N/A mobo: N/A gpu: nouveau temp: 41.0 C
Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A gpu: nouveau fan: 0 <=== HW not in lm_sensors
Processes: 471 Uptime: 4m Memory: 125.7 GiB used: 2.09 GiB (1.7%)
Shell: Bash inxi: 3.3.13
$ inxi -F # LinuxMint 22 on my cheap SSD (no casper-rw partition)
Host: FLYPAPER Kernel: 6.8.0-39-generic arch: x86_64 bits: 64
Desktop: Cinnamon v: 6.2.7 Distro: Linux Mint 22 Wilma
Type: Desktop System: ASUS
Mobo: ASUSTeK model: ROG STRIX B550-F GAMING WIFI II v: Rev X.0x
serial: <superuser required> BIOS: American Megatrends v: 3607
date: 03/22/2024
L2: 8 MiB
Speed (MHz): avg: 2349 min/max: 2200/5083 <=== knows about the "good core" scheme
Device-1: NVIDIA GP107 [GeForce GTX 1050 Ti] driver: nvidia v: 535.183.01
loaded: modesetting,nouveau,nvidia unloaded: fbdev,vesa
gpu: nvidia,nvidia-nvswitch resolution: 1: 1920x1080~75Hz 2: N/A
API: EGL v: 1.5 drivers: kms_swrast,nvidia,swrast
platforms: gbm,x11,surfaceless,device
API: OpenGL v: 4.6.0 compat-v: 4.5 vendor: nvidia mesa v: 535.183.01
renderer: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti/PCIe/SSE2 <=== HW accel
Device-1: NVIDIA GP107GL High Definition Audio driver: snd_hda_intel
Device-2: AMD Starship/Matisse HD Audio driver: snd_hda_intel
API: ALSA v: k6.8.0-39-generic status: kernel-api
Server-1: PipeWire v: 1.0.5 status: active
Device-1: Intel Ethernet I225-V driver: igc
Local Storage: total: 295.77 GiB used: 24.64 GiB (8.3%)
ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Lexar model: SSD NS100 256GB size: 238.47 GiB
ID-2: /dev/sdb vendor: SanDisk model: Cruzer Glide size: 57.3 GiB type: USB
ID-1: / size: 32.13 GiB used: 21.65 GiB (67.4%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda2
Alert: No swap data was found.
System Temperatures: cpu: 35.5 C mobo: N/A gpu: nvidia temp: 41 C
Fan Speeds (rpm): N/A gpu: nvidia fan: 0%
Memory: total: 128 GiB note: est. available: 125.7 GiB used: 2.37 GiB (1.9%)
Processes: 514 Uptime: 2m Shell: Bash inxi: 3.3.34
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[Picture] Shows changes to USB stick for persistent partition operation
https://i.postimg.cc/J4pzbw6v/persistent213.gif
Paul

Not very useful as the illustration cannot be enlarged enough to
read the tiny text included.

bliss

[Paul]

    [Picture]   Shows changes to USB stick for persistent partition operation
     https://i.postimg.cc/J4pzbw6v/persistent213.gif

    Not very useful as the illustration cannot be enlarged enough to
read the tiny text included.
    bliss

Your cursor has a magnify icon on the end of it.

If you click the mouse, what happens ?

Also, in some cases, you have the option of "Download Original".

Paul

[Bobbie Sellers]

Post by Paul

    [Picture]   Shows changes to USB stick for persistent partition operation
     https://i.postimg.cc/J4pzbw6v/persistent213.gif

    Not very useful as the illustration cannot be enlarged enough to
read the tiny text included.
    bliss

Your cursor has a magnify icon on the end of it.

My experience of Linux is not your experience of Linux

Post by Paul
If you click the mouse, what happens ?
Also, in some cases, you have the option of "Download Original".
Paul

In some cases When I hit Ctrl with "+" the page enlarges
but not your illustration.
I am not going to download anything when I don't see a checksum
or it is not in my distributions repositories.

bliss- Dell Precision 7730- PCLOS 2024.10- Linux 6.6.58-Plasma 5.27.11

[Paul]

    I am not going to download anything when I don't see a checksum
or it is not in my distributions repositories.

Do "download original".

The file is a GIF.

Use the file command to convince yourself it is a GIF.

The GIF was generated with the GIMP photo editor.

https://giflib.sourceforge.net/whatsinagif/bits_and_bytes.html

Paul

[Hoppy]

Post by Paul

    [Picture]   Shows changes to USB stick for persistent partition operation
     https://i.postimg.cc/J4pzbw6v/persistent213.gif

    Not very useful as the illustration cannot be enlarged enough to
read the tiny text included.
    bliss

Your cursor has a magnify icon on the end of it.
If you click the mouse, what happens ?

First time, your link brought me to
https://postimg.cc/mtF4snGy
Nice enlargement with that page. But why did I get there? Bobbie
apparently didn't.

Second time, the link went to
https://i.postimg.cc/J4pzbw6v/persistent213.gif
The gif doesn't enlarge much at all.

Post by Paul
Also, in some cases, you have the option of "Download Original".
Paul