Ubuntu 24.04

[Jack]

Ubuntu 24.04 will hit the shelves today and according to OMGUbuntu
website there are major changes to look out for. He has listed some at
this link:

<https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2024/04/ubuntu-24-04-lts-20-changes-to-look-out-for>

The beta changes were these:

<https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2024/04/ubuntu-24-04-beta-released>

I suspect all the beta features have survived in the RTM version.

Good luck and post your views about this new release.

[Kyonshi]

Post by Jack
Ubuntu 24.04 will hit the shelves today and according to OMGUbuntu
website there are major changes to look out for. He has listed some at
<https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2024/04/ubuntu-24-04-lts-20-changes-to-look-out-for>
<https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2024/04/ubuntu-24-04-beta-released>
I suspect all the beta features have survived in the RTM version.
Good luck and post your views about this new release.

the shelves? do they even still make physical media?

[Big Al]

Post by Kyonshi

Ubuntu 24.04 will hit the shelves today and according to OMGUbuntu website there are major changes
<https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2024/04/ubuntu-24-04-lts-20-changes-to-look-out-for>
<https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2024/04/ubuntu-24-04-beta-released>
I suspect all the beta features have survived in the RTM version.
Good luck and post your views about this new release.

the shelves? do they even still make physical media?

Ubuntu seems to be really active on releases.
See Distro Watch and look at their list of releases.
Kubuntu 24.10
Ubuntu Studio 24.04
Ubuntu Budgie 24.4
Ubuntu Cinnamon 24.04
Ubuntu MATE 24.04
Xubuntu 24.04
Lubuntu 24.04
Ubuntu 24.04 (of course)

[Kyonshi]

Post by Big Al

Post by Kyonshi

Post by Jack
Ubuntu 24.04 will hit the shelves today and according to OMGUbuntu
website there are major changes to look out for. He has listed some
<https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2024/04/ubuntu-24-04-lts-20-changes-to-look-out-for>
<https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2024/04/ubuntu-24-04-beta-released>
I suspect all the beta features have survived in the RTM version.
Good luck and post your views about this new release.

the shelves? do they even still make physical media?

Ubuntu seems to be really active on releases.
See Distro Watch and look at their list of releases.
Kubuntu 24.10
Ubuntu Studio 24.04
Ubuntu Budgie 24.4
Ubuntu Cinnamon 24.04
Ubuntu MATE 24.04
Xubuntu 24.04
Lubuntu 24.04
Ubuntu 24.04 (of course)

well, yeah, they do a release every half a year for all of them.
it's kinda easy to be active if you release something on a 6 month
schedule.

How much they actually change is I guess a bit up for debate. I remember
a few where besides cosmetic changes nothing obvious really changed. On
the other hand that's better for people who need a stable work
environment. (hint towards Microsoft...)

[Big Al]

Post by Kyonshi

Post by Big Al

Post by Kyonshi

Ubuntu 24.04 will hit the shelves today and according to OMGUbuntu website there are major
<https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2024/04/ubuntu-24-04-lts-20-changes-to-look-out-for>
<https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2024/04/ubuntu-24-04-beta-released>
I suspect all the beta features have survived in the RTM version.
Good luck and post your views about this new release.

the shelves? do they even still make physical media?

Ubuntu seems to be really active on releases.
See Distro Watch and look at their list of releases.
Kubuntu 24.10
Ubuntu Studio 24.04
Ubuntu Budgie 24.4
Ubuntu Cinnamon 24.04
Ubuntu MATE 24.04
Xubuntu 24.04
Lubuntu 24.04
Ubuntu 24.04 (of course)

well, yeah, they do a release every half a year for all of them.
it's kinda easy to be active if you release something on a 6 month schedule.
How much they actually change is I guess a bit up for debate. I remember a few where besides
cosmetic changes nothing obvious really changed. On the other hand that's better for people who need
a stable work environment. (hint towards Microsoft...)

In reading the article above, seems the replaced a few apps, installer for one. At least revamped.
Sounds like it would be fun to dump into a VM and play with, just to get the feel in my case.

[Kyonshi]

Post by Big Al

Post by Kyonshi

Post by Big Al

Post by Kyonshi

Post by Jack
Ubuntu 24.04 will hit the shelves today and according to OMGUbuntu
website there are major changes to look out for. He has listed some
<https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2024/04/ubuntu-24-04-lts-20-changes-to-look-out-for>
<https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2024/04/ubuntu-24-04-beta-released>
I suspect all the beta features have survived in the RTM version.
Good luck and post your views about this new release.

the shelves? do they even still make physical media?

Ubuntu seems to be really active on releases.
See Distro Watch and look at their list of releases.
Kubuntu 24.10
Ubuntu Studio 24.04
Ubuntu Budgie 24.4
Ubuntu Cinnamon 24.04
Ubuntu MATE 24.04
Xubuntu 24.04
Lubuntu 24.04
Ubuntu 24.04 (of course)

well, yeah, they do a release every half a year for all of them.
it's kinda easy to be active if you release something on a 6 month schedule.
How much they actually change is I guess a bit up for debate. I
remember a few where besides cosmetic changes nothing obvious really
changed. On the other hand that's better for people who need a stable
work environment. (hint towards Microsoft...)

In reading the article above, seems the replaced a few apps, installer
for one.  At least revamped.
Sounds like it would be fun to dump into a VM and play with, just to get
the feel in my case.

It always is fun playing with a new distro. I'd use Xubuntu, had a lot
of success with that on various computers overtime. Really nice and
sleek system.

[Jasen Betts]

Post by Big Al

Post by Kyonshi

Ubuntu 24.04 will hit the shelves today and according to OMGUbuntu website there are major changes
<https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2024/04/ubuntu-24-04-lts-20-changes-to-look-out-for>
<https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2024/04/ubuntu-24-04-beta-released>
I suspect all the beta features have survived in the RTM version.
Good luck and post your views about this new release.

the shelves? do they even still make physical media?

Ubuntu seems to be really active on releases.
See Distro Watch and look at their list of releases.
Kubuntu 24.10
Ubuntu Studio 24.04
Ubuntu Budgie 24.4
Ubuntu Cinnamon 24.04
Ubuntu MATE 24.04
Xubuntu 24.04
Lubuntu 24.04
Ubuntu 24.04 (of course)

They're all the same distro just with different pre-configurations

[philo]

Post by Jack
Ubuntu 24.04 will hit the shelves today and according to OMGUbuntu
website there are major changes to look out for. He has listed some at
<https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2024/04/ubuntu-24-04-lts-20-changes-to-look-out-for>
<https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2024/04/ubuntu-24-04-beta-released>
I suspect all the beta features have survived in the RTM version.
Good luck and post your views about this new release.

Now that I've been using 24.04 for a week or so, I see nothing different
from 22.04 other than when I check for updates, at least I am no longer
urged to switch to Pro.

[Big Al]

Ubuntu 24.04 will hit the shelves today and according to OMGUbuntu website there are major changes
<https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2024/04/ubuntu-24-04-lts-20-changes-to-look-out-for>
<https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2024/04/ubuntu-24-04-beta-released>
I suspect all the beta features have survived in the RTM version.
Good luck and post your views about this new release.

Now that I've been using 24.04 for a week or so, I see nothing different from 22.04 other than when
I check for updates, at least I am no longer urged to switch to Pro.

I made a partition and added it to my boot. I looked at that first web page of 20 new things, a
good amount I don't use, might but don't. I suppose this is all in the YMMV scenario. The One
Drive access might be nice.

[philo]

Im going to stick mainly with Ubuntu.
I'm always popping the HD into newer mobos and 100% of the time, the OS
has just booted up smoothly and worked.

My Mint 20.3 will not boot on any H/W other than that where it was
originally installed.

[Monsieur]

Post by philo
Im going to stick mainly with Ubuntu.
I'm always popping the HD into newer mobos and 100% of the time, the OS
has just booted up smoothly and worked.
My Mint 20.3 will not boot on any H/W other than that where it was
originally installed.

Yes, unfortunately the concept op Plug andd Play is still unknown to
Mint/Linux. Try changing a video card just for fun...

I mean, how hard can it be:

"Hey, I see some new stuff in your pc. Do you want me to forget the old
stuff and set up the new thing?"

Windows can do it, so why can't Mint/Linux...

[philo]

The problem I had was specifically with Mint. I've Bern using Ubuntu
for ages and have never had any such problem.

Windows never did a good job of reconfiguring into Win10

[Bobbie Sellers]

Post by Monsieur

Post by philo
Im going to stick mainly with Ubuntu.
I'm always popping the HD into newer mobos and 100% of the time, the OS
has just booted up smoothly and worked.
My Mint 20.3 will not boot on any H/W other than that where it was
originally installed.

Yes, unfortunately the concept op Plug andd Play is still unknown to
Mint/Linux. Try changing a video card just for fun...
"Hey, I see some new stuff in your pc. Do you want me to forget the old
stuff and set up the new thing?"
Windows can do it, so why can't Mint/Linux...

Very simple reply. Cards of any sort provide drivers
for Windows. Some cards and other accessories provide drivers for
GNU/Linux0. Others do not. To get drivers for these cards Linux
coders need the cards. If you want to buy them a card to try
their coding skills on, give thmm the cards or the money to
afford the cards you want to have covered by Linux drivers and
mods.
Now if the cards are new, the latest, greatest SOTA,
whatever; the chances may be low that they will be included with
a Linux Distribution that is not large. Older cards are usual
covered but recently nvidia cards have not had the dame degree
of support that was provided in previous years. Generally the
older drivers can found especially if you have a good User
Forum to ask questions in. Now if i had a desktop/tower I
would back up then wipe the install and re-install with the
new piece of hardware in place. That way you may find that
the hardware is supported by your updated distribution.

Running PCLinuxOS is quite different from Ubuntu or its derivatives
but we have an excellent user forum which is where all my
information comes from beside about 19 years using GNU/Linux and
trying out various distribtions. Besides that I avoid Windows®
having used CBM from the C=64 to the Amiga 2000 which is AOS 1.3
to 3.9 which was the last version for the 680x00 machines. It
was a very good set of machines on which to learn.

bliss- Dell Precision 7730- PCLOS 2024.05- Linux 6.6.32- Plasma 5.27.11

[Bud Frede]

Post by Bobbie Sellers

Post by Monsieur

Post by philo
Im going to stick mainly with Ubuntu.
I'm always popping the HD into newer mobos and 100% of the time, the OS
has just booted up smoothly and worked.
My Mint 20.3 will not boot on any H/W other than that where it was
originally installed.

Yes, unfortunately the concept op Plug andd Play is still unknown to
Mint/Linux. Try changing a video card just for fun...
"Hey, I see some new stuff in your pc. Do you want me to forget the
old stuff and set up the new thing?"
Windows can do it, so why can't Mint/Linux...

Very simple reply. Cards of any sort provide drivers
for Windows. Some cards and other accessories provide drivers for
GNU/Linux0. Others do not. To get drivers for these cards Linux
coders need the cards. If you want to buy them a card to try
their coding skills on, give thmm the cards or the money to
afford the cards you want to have covered by Linux drivers and
mods.
Now if the cards are new, the latest, greatest SOTA,
whatever; the chances may be low that they will be included with
a Linux Distribution that is not large. Older cards are usual
covered but recently nvidia cards have not had the dame degree
of support that was provided in previous years. Generally the
older drivers can found especially if you have a good User
Forum to ask questions in. Now if i had a desktop/tower I
would back up then wipe the install and re-install with the
new piece of hardware in place. That way you may find that
the hardware is supported by your updated distribution.

I run Linux Mint. I just tried switching between 3 different ATI
graphics cards and 2 different Nvidia ones. I didn't have any trouble
with any of them and the normal free software drivers. I don't know what
it's like with Nvidia's grotty closed-source drivers since I don't use
them. In fact, I avoid Nvidia anything these days, but happen to have a
couple of their graphics cards that are pulls from old machines I got.

Dunno what Arlen is talking about.

[Paul]

Post by Bud Frede

Post by Bobbie Sellers

Post by Monsieur

Post by philo
Im going to stick mainly with Ubuntu.
I'm always popping the HD into newer mobos and 100% of the time, the OS
has just booted up smoothly and worked.
My Mint 20.3 will not boot on any H/W other than that where it was
originally installed.

Yes, unfortunately the concept op Plug andd Play is still unknown to
Mint/Linux. Try changing a video card just for fun...
"Hey, I see some new stuff in your pc. Do you want me to forget the
old stuff and set up the new thing?"
Windows can do it, so why can't Mint/Linux...

Very simple reply. Cards of any sort provide drivers
for Windows. Some cards and other accessories provide drivers for
GNU/Linux0. Others do not. To get drivers for these cards Linux
coders need the cards. If you want to buy them a card to try
their coding skills on, give thmm the cards or the money to
afford the cards you want to have covered by Linux drivers and
mods.
Now if the cards are new, the latest, greatest SOTA,
whatever; the chances may be low that they will be included with
a Linux Distribution that is not large. Older cards are usual
covered but recently nvidia cards have not had the dame degree
of support that was provided in previous years. Generally the
older drivers can found especially if you have a good User
Forum to ask questions in. Now if i had a desktop/tower I
would back up then wipe the install and re-install with the
new piece of hardware in place. That way you may find that
the hardware is supported by your updated distribution.

I run Linux Mint. I just tried switching between 3 different ATI
graphics cards and 2 different Nvidia ones. I didn't have any trouble
with any of them and the normal free software drivers. I don't know what
it's like with Nvidia's grotty closed-source drivers since I don't use
them. In fact, I avoid Nvidia anything these days, but happen to have a
couple of their graphics cards that are pulls from old machines I got.
Dunno what Arlen is talking about.

Different NVidia drivers cover different "vintages" of cards.

If you tried to support an RTX4090 and a FX5200 at the same
time, it's possible a single driver does not support both cards.

https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/NVIDIA

A simplifying model for you, is "assume hardware support for six years,
be pleasantly surprised if something works past that point".

NVidia - six years for sure, longer than that might be an accident
Nouveau - longer support, but who knows what works and what is fallback code
- expect at least a frame buffer, for 2D stuff
- reverse engineering hardware, and not being allowed to use an NDA,
is uphill all the way. The process cannot go quickly.

If you had an RTX4090 in one machine, and a GTX1080 in the other,
I bet you could move your Linux hard drive back and forth between
the two machines.

Paul

[Edmund]

Post by philo

Post by Jack
Ubuntu 24.04 will hit the shelves today and according to OMGUbuntu
website there are major changes to look out for. He has listed some
<https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2024/04/ubuntu-24-04-lts-20-changes-to-look-out-for>
<https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2024/04/ubuntu-24-04-beta-released>
I suspect all the beta features have survived in the RTM version.
Good luck and post your views about this new release.

Now that I've been using 24.04 for a week or so, I see nothing
different from 22.04 other than when I check for updates, at least I
am no longer urged to switch to Pro.

I made a partition and added it to my boot.  I looked at that first web
page of 20 new things, a good amount I don't use, might but don't.  I
suppose this is all in the YMMV scenario.  The One Drive access might be
nice.

Excuse me, the one drive??
Isn't that a windows thing?

If so, what is nice about handing over your last bit of privacy to windows?

[Anssi Saari]

Post by Edmund
Excuse me, the one drive??
Isn't that a windows thing?

Was. Apparently there's a Linux client now and it's FOSS.

[Edmund]

Post by Anssi Saari

Post by Edmund
Excuse me, the one drive??
Isn't that a windows thing?

Was. Apparently there's a Linux client now and it's FOSS.

No idea what FOSS is other then yet again another abbreviation. :-)
Never mind my point is still valid, why handing over your last bit of
privacy.

[Mike Easter]

Post by Edmund
No idea what FOSS is other then yet again another abbreviation. :-)

In defense of abbreviations;

- this is a linux group, and even 'beyond' linux I would have assumed
that 'everyone' (everyone is never everyone just like never is almost
never never) knew FOSS
- FOSS = free and open source software, where the meaning of 'free' is
libre
- I'm someone who uses 'specific' abbreviations 'all the time' having
their meaning defined in the same 'visual' context where the 'expanded'
abbreviation is visible in the same context, eg using the initials of a
familiar or recent msg poster eg BA could = Big Al
- if you don't recognize some abbreviation, particularly if you wish
there were less of them, you should learn how to find out what one
means, ranging from checking the wp to using a dictionary of acronyms
and abbreviations
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_and_open-source_software

[Edmund]

Post by Mike Easter

Post by Edmund
No idea what FOSS is other then yet again another abbreviation. :-)

In defense of abbreviations;
 - this is a linux group, and even 'beyond' linux I would have assumed
that 'everyone' (everyone is never everyone just like never is almost
never never) knew FOSS
 - FOSS = free and open source software, where the meaning of 'free' is
libre
 - I'm someone who uses 'specific' abbreviations 'all the time' having
their meaning defined in the same 'visual' context where the 'expanded'
abbreviation is visible in the same context, eg using the initials of a
familiar or recent msg poster eg BA could = Big Al
 - if you don't recognize some abbreviation, particularly if you wish
there were less of them, you should learn how to find out what one
means, ranging from checking the wp to using a dictionary of acronyms
and abbreviations
 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_and_open-source_software

checking the "wp" you say?

[Mike Easter]

Post by Edmund

Post by Mike Easter

Post by Edmund
No idea what FOSS is other then yet again another abbreviation. :-)

In defense of abbreviations;
  - I'm someone who uses 'specific' abbreviations 'all the time'
having their meaning defined in the same 'visual' context where the
'expanded' abbreviation is visible in the same context,
ranging from checking the wp to using a dictionary of acronyms
and abbreviations
  - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_and_open-source_software

checking the "wp" you say?

Exactly; see above.

The abbreviation wp is expanded in the same visual context as the
abbreviation itself.

wp = wikipedia indicated in the link very near the abbrev.

[Big Al]

Post by Mike Easter

Post by Edmund

Post by Mike Easter

Post by Edmund
No idea what FOSS is other then yet again another abbreviation. :-)

In defense of abbreviations;
  - I'm someone who uses 'specific' abbreviations 'all the time' having their meaning defined in
the same 'visual' context where the 'expanded' abbreviation is visible in the same context,
ranging from checking the wp to using a dictionary of acronyms and abbreviations
  - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_and_open-source_software

checking the "wp" you say?

Exactly; see above.
The abbreviation wp is expanded in the same visual context as the abbreviation itself.
wp = wikipedia indicated in the link very near the abbrev.

I always thought wp was Word Perfect. Of course that probably would be WP in caps.

[Mike Easter]

I always thought wp was Word Perfect.  Of course that probably would be
WP in caps.

That gets into the famous 'what something means depends on the context'
concept, with which I don't always agree.

wp can mean wikipedia to me if that is the context; it might mean 'word
processor' or any number of other things depending on specific context.

*HOWEVER* that context idea does NOT mean that kilobyte can mean one
thing in one context and something else in another context. A kilobyte
is 1000 bytes, not 1024. 1024 bytes are a kibibyte.

Abbreviations are one thing; prefixes are another.

[Mike Easter]

A kilobyte is 1000 bytes, not 1024.  1024 bytes are a kibibyte.
Abbreviations are one thing; prefixes are another.

And, for the 'record' the 'internationally accepted' abbreviation for
kilobyte is Kb, while the similarly accepted abbreviation for kibibyte
is KiB.

The 'problem' w/ the apparent discrepancy in the lettercase of the K/k
is the 'inconsistency' in the base 10 family, where only the kilo is a
lower case, and all of the rest starting w/ mega are capped; whereas in
the base 2 family, the prefix abbreviation letter is always capped.

[Mike Easter]

oops; cases switched.

Post by Mike Easter
And, for the 'record' the 'internationally accepted' abbreviation for
kilobyte is Kb, while the similarly accepted abbreviation for kibibyte
is KiB.

Of course the kilobyte is kB (NOT Kb).

Post by Mike Easter
The 'problem' w/ the apparent discrepancy in the lettercase of the K/k
is the 'inconsistency' in the base 10 family, where only the kilo is a
lower case, and all of the rest starting w/ mega are capped; whereas in
the base 2 family, the prefix abbreviation letter is always capped.

[Mark Lloyd]

Post by Mike Easter

A kilobyte is 1000 bytes, not 1024.  1024 bytes are a kibibyte.
Abbreviations are one thing; prefixes are another.

And, for the 'record' the 'internationally accepted' abbreviation for
kilobyte is Kb, while the similarly accepted abbreviation for kibibyte
is KiB.
The 'problem' w/ the apparent discrepancy in the lettercase of the K/k
is the 'inconsistency' in the base 10 family, where only the kilo is a
lower case, and all of the rest starting w/ mega are capped; whereas in
the base 2 family, the prefix abbreviation letter is always capped.

And case matters for the last letter too. b is bits, B is bytes.

[Allodoxaphobia]

Post by Mark Lloyd

Post by Mike Easter

A kilobyte is 1000 bytes, not 1024.  1024 bytes are a kibibyte.
Abbreviations are one thing; prefixes are another.

And, for the 'record' the 'internationally accepted' abbreviation for
kilobyte is Kb, while the similarly accepted abbreviation for kibibyte
is KiB.
The 'problem' w/ the apparent discrepancy in the lettercase of the K/k
is the 'inconsistency' in the base 10 family, where only the kilo is a
lower case, and all of the rest starting w/ mega are capped; whereas in
the base 2 family, the prefix abbreviation letter is always capped.

And case matters for the last letter too. b is bits, B is bytes.

Standards are great! And there's so many to choose from!!
Jonesy

[Josef Möllers]

Post by Allodoxaphobia

Post by Mark Lloyd

Post by Mike Easter

A kilobyte is 1000 bytes, not 1024.  1024 bytes are a kibibyte.
Abbreviations are one thing; prefixes are another.

And, for the 'record' the 'internationally accepted' abbreviation for
kilobyte is Kb, while the similarly accepted abbreviation for kibibyte
is KiB.
The 'problem' w/ the apparent discrepancy in the lettercase of the K/k
is the 'inconsistency' in the base 10 family, where only the kilo is a
lower case, and all of the rest starting w/ mega are capped; whereas in
the base 2 family, the prefix abbreviation letter is always capped.

And case matters for the last letter too. b is bits, B is bytes.

Standards are great! And there's so many to choose from!!

And if you don't like any of them, you can still wait for next year's model!

SCNR,
Josef

[candycanearter07]

Post by Mark Lloyd

Post by Mike Easter

A kilobyte is 1000 bytes, not 1024.  1024 bytes are a kibibyte.
Abbreviations are one thing; prefixes are another.

And, for the 'record' the 'internationally accepted' abbreviation for
kilobyte is Kb, while the similarly accepted abbreviation for kibibyte
is KiB.
The 'problem' w/ the apparent discrepancy in the lettercase of the K/k
is the 'inconsistency' in the base 10 family, where only the kilo is a
lower case, and all of the rest starting w/ mega are capped; whereas in
the base 2 family, the prefix abbreviation letter is always capped.

And case matters for the last letter too. b is bits, B is bytes.

And i is never capitalized either, which is a bit weird.

[Jasen Betts]

Post by candycanearter07

Post by Mark Lloyd

Post by Mike Easter

A kilobyte is 1000 bytes, not 1024.  1024 bytes are a kibibyte.
Abbreviations are one thing; prefixes are another.

And, for the 'record' the 'internationally accepted' abbreviation for
kilobyte is Kb, while the similarly accepted abbreviation for kibibyte
is KiB.
The 'problem' w/ the apparent discrepancy in the lettercase of the K/k
is the 'inconsistency' in the base 10 family, where only the kilo is a
lower case, and all of the rest starting w/ mega are capped; whereas in
the base 2 family, the prefix abbreviation letter is always capped.

And case matters for the last letter too. b is bits, B is bytes.

And i is never capitalized either, which is a bit weird.

B is also Bel... as in decibel.

hmm

0dBB = 1 byte
10dBB = 10 bytes
30dBB = 1000 bytes.
90dBB = 1GB

With this we can linearise Moore's law, so basically a useless
diversion, sorry for wasting your time.

[candycanearter07]

Post by Jasen Betts

Post by candycanearter07

Post by Mark Lloyd

Post by Mike Easter

A kilobyte is 1000 bytes, not 1024.  1024 bytes are a kibibyte.
Abbreviations are one thing; prefixes are another.

And, for the 'record' the 'internationally accepted' abbreviation for
kilobyte is Kb, while the similarly accepted abbreviation for kibibyte
is KiB.
The 'problem' w/ the apparent discrepancy in the lettercase of the K/k
is the 'inconsistency' in the base 10 family, where only the kilo is a
lower case, and all of the rest starting w/ mega are capped; whereas in
the base 2 family, the prefix abbreviation letter is always capped.

And case matters for the last letter too. b is bits, B is bytes.

And i is never capitalized either, which is a bit weird.

B is also Bel... as in decibel.
hmm
0dBB = 1 byte
10dBB = 10 bytes
30dBB = 1000 bytes.
90dBB = 1GB
With this we can linearise Moore's law, so basically a useless
diversion, sorry for wasting your time.

Huh, I've never heard of using decibels for storage space.

[Big Al]

Post by Edmund

Ubuntu 24.04 will hit the shelves today and according to OMGUbuntu website there are major
<https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2024/04/ubuntu-24-04-lts-20-changes-to-look-out-for>
<https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2024/04/ubuntu-24-04-beta-released>
I suspect all the beta features have survived in the RTM version.
Good luck and post your views about this new release.

Now that I've been using 24.04 for a week or so, I see nothing different from 22.04 other than
when I check for updates, at least I am no longer urged to switch to Pro.

I made a partition and added it to my boot.  I looked at that first web page of 20 new things, a
good amount I don't use, might but don't.  I suppose this is all in the YMMV scenario.  The One
Drive access might be nice.

Excuse me, the one drive??
Isn't that a windows thing?
If so, what is nice about handing over your last bit of privacy to windows?

I put non-sensitive data on the cloud. MS or Google could look at it if they wanted. Most of the
stuff is themes and settings for a new install. It's free cloud storage. You may not want it, but
some might like a few gigs of cloud for free.

[Paul]

Post by Edmund

Post by Jack
<https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2024/04/ubuntu-24-04-lts-20-changes-to-look-out-for>
<https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2024/04/ubuntu-24-04-beta-released>
I suspect all the beta features have survived in the RTM version.
Good luck and post your views about this new release.

Now that I've been using 24.04 for a week or so, I see nothing different from 22.04 other than when I check for updates, at least I am no longer urged to switch to Pro.

I made a partition and added it to my boot.  I looked at that first web page of 20 new things, a good amount I don't use, might but don't.  I suppose this is all in the YMMV scenario.  The One Drive access might be nice.

Excuse me, the one drive??
Isn't that a windows thing?
If so, what is nice about handing over your last bit of privacy to windows?

Do you have a GMail account ?

It would not be much different than transmission of email
via scraping-experts. Whether Google looks through my invoices
or Microsoft does forensics on my OneDrive, it's all the same
highly trusted activity :-)

I would store my Trombone collection on OneDrive .

I guess I'm not really a Cloud person.

Paul

[Dan Purgert]

Post by Paul
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I guess I'm not really a Cloud person.

Who needs "the cloud(tm)" when they can run it themselves?