Anyone know how to backup Rhythmbox Radio data?

[David]

I've just spent a while typing in all the details of some of my
favourite internet radio stations - and discovered how easy it is to
'Remove' one inadvertently when menuing for Properties - so thought I'd
backup all the details. Seems to be no way to do it from the Rhythmbox
window and, search as I might, I can't find a file related to Rhythmbox
which either has today's date or even looks as though it should contain
the info.

Anyone know how to do it?

[J G Miller]

Post by David
I've just spent a while typing in all the details of some of my
favourite internet radio stations - and discovered how easy it is to
'Remove' one inadvertently when menuing for Properties - so thought I'd
backup all the details.

Rhythmbox is a real pain to configure for radio stations and
podcasts, but is a job which has to be done, as there does not
appear to be a better alternative.

Post by David
search as I might, I can't find a file related to Rhythmbox
which either has today's date or even looks as though it should contain
the info.

It may even depend on which version of Rhythmbox you are using
because I have a recollection that the location was moved because
I have a memory of upgrading from one version of Ubuntu to the
next (8.10 to 9.04 I think, or maybe 9.04 to 9.10) and all
of my presets had disappeared.

But with the present version you file is at

${HOME}/.local/share/rhythmbox/rhythmdb.xml

And what is really annoying is that the file contains a mixture
of entries for Radio stations, Podcast feeds, *and* individual
Podcast episodes which is in my opinion is vpoor organisation
and there should be a separate database file for each, or at
least segregated sections, not all jumbled up together.

Even better would be a proper database with different tables
for each.

Amarok used to support Postgres, but then when they dumbed down
to Amarok 2, they removed the Posgres support as well as trashing
other aspects of functionality, all in the cause of keeping its
look in the same dumbed down flashy style of KDE 4.

And another thing with Rhythmbox is that the sorting of
columns (click on column to sort) does not work properly,
especially for when Podcasts are downloading and you want
to see which one is active.

[David]

Post by J G Miller

Post by David
I've just spent a while typing in all the details of some of my
favourite internet radio stations - and discovered how easy it is
to 'Remove' one inadvertently when menuing for Properties - so
thought I'd backup all the details.

Rhythmbox is a real pain to configure for radio stations and
podcasts, but is a job which has to be done, as there does not
appear to be a better alternative.

Post by David
search as I might, I can't find a file related to Rhythmbox which
either has today's date or even looks as though it should contain
the info.

It may even depend on which version of Rhythmbox you are using
because I have a recollection that the location was moved because
I have a memory of upgrading from one version of Ubuntu to the
next (8.10 to 9.04 I think, or maybe 9.04 to 9.10) and all
of my presets had disappeared.

V.0.12.8

Post by J G Miller
But with the present version you file is at
${HOME}/.local/share/rhythmbox/rhythmdb.xml

Thanks. You're a chum. :-)

So the Search for Files app doesn't look at hidden files. Not a lot of
use, then.

Anyway, I can now take a copy. There really ought to be import/export
facility.

Post by J G Miller
And what is really annoying is that the file contains a mixture
of entries for Radio stations, Podcast feeds, *and* individual
Podcast episodes which is in my opinion is vpoor organisation
and there should be a separate database file for each, or at
least segregated sections, not all jumbled up together.

Not to mention a whole load of info about music that I'd removed.

Post by J G Miller
Even better would be a proper database with different tables
for each.

That's what I was expecting.

Post by J G Miller
Amarok used to support Postgres, but then when they dumbed down
to Amarok 2, they removed the Posgres support as well as trashing
other aspects of functionality, all in the cause of keeping its
look in the same dumbed down flashy style of KDE 4.
And another thing with Rhythmbox is that the sorting of
columns (click on column to sort) does not work properly,
especially for when Podcasts are downloading and you want
to see which one is active.

[J G Miller]

Post by David
So the Search for Files app doesn't look at hidden files. Not a lot of
use, then.

Umm, no idea. I never use it.

If you want to search for a file containing a specified string
employ this type of incantation, all on one line

find path_to search -type f
-exec egrep "search_string" {} /dev/null \;


For convenience, in bash you can create a function,
in tcsh you can create an alias to do this.

Post by David
Not to mention a whole load of info about music that I'd removed.

Yup, the file just keeps getting bigger and it does not look
as if it removes dead entries.

Post by David
That's what I was expecting.

I wonder if it is time to take a look at Exaile and see how
that compares ... ???

It is a pity that Streamtuner is a dead project.

[David]

Post by J G Miller

Post by David
So the Search for Files app doesn't look at hidden files. Not a lot
of use, then.

Umm, no idea. I never use it.
If you want to search for a file containing a specified string
employ this type of incantation, all on one line
find path_to search -type f
-exec egrep "search_string" {} /dev/null \;
For convenience, in bash you can create a function,
in tcsh you can create an alias to do this.

Ta.

Post by J G Miller

Post by David
Not to mention a whole load of info about music that I'd removed.

Yup, the file just keeps getting bigger and it does not look
as if it removes dead entries.

Editing by hand works.

Post by J G Miller

Post by David
That's what I was expecting.

I wonder if it is time to take a look at Exaile and see how
that compares ... ???

Just about to install it.

Post by J G Miller
It is a pity that Streamtuner is a dead project.

[anders]

Post by David
I've just spent a while typing in all the details of some of my
favourite internet radio stations - and discovered how easy it is to
'Remove' one inadvertently when menuing for Properties - so thought I'd
backup all the details. Seems to be no way to do it from the Rhythmbox
window and, search as I might, I can't find a file related to Rhythmbox
which either has today's date or even looks as though it should contain
the info.
Anyone know how to do it?

Know that you have already been answered by JG Miller, but have you tried
Radio Tray ( http://radiotray.sourceforge.net/ ) alternatively, it's
included in the package manager.

/ Anders

[David]

Post by anders

Post by David
I've just spent a while typing in all the details of some of my
favourite internet radio stations - and discovered how easy it is
to 'Remove' one inadvertently when menuing for Properties - so
thought I'd backup all the details. Seems to be no way to do it
from the Rhythmbox window and, search as I might, I can't find a
file related to Rhythmbox which either has today's date or even
looks as though it should contain the info.
Anyone know how to do it?

Know that you have already been answered by JG Miller, but have you
tried Radio Tray ( http://radiotray.sourceforge.net/ )
alternatively, it's included in the package manager.

Thanks. I'm currently listening via Exaile (seems considerably better
than Rhythmbox for my needs - thanks J G!) but I'll have a look-see.

<short time passes>

Nope. It looks a little _too_ minimal for what I want. Thanks for the
thought, though.

[J G Miller]

Post by David
Thanks. I'm currently listening via Exaile (seems considerably better
than Rhythmbox for my needs - thanks J G!) but I'll have a look-see.

If you think that Exaile is better, I had better download it and try
it out.

Meanwhile, if people are interested in a more up to date version of
Rhythmbox and want to install from a debian package

<http://www.webupd8.ORG/2010/07/install-rhythmbox-0130-in-ubuntu.html>

Webupd8 appears to be a good site to get news of developments and
updates of software beyond that which is available in the current
repositories.