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usb to vga adaptor for linux?
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RobH
2019-10-31 12:18:34 UTC
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Is there any usb to vga adaptor which works under linux ubuntu.
There seems to be plenty for windows, but can;t find one for linux.
Jonathan N. Little
2019-10-31 12:59:32 UTC
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Post by RobH
Is there any usb to vga adaptor which works under linux ubuntu.
There seems to be plenty for windows, but can;t find one for linux.
DisplayLink

<https://www.displaylink.com/downloads/ubuntu>
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Jonathan
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RobH
2019-10-31 13:07:22 UTC
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Post by RobH
Is there any usb to vga adaptor which works under linux ubuntu.
There seems to be plenty for windows, but can;t find one for linux.
DisplayLink
<https://www.displaylink.com/downloads/ubuntu>
Ok thanks , but do you know how to actually run it or install it.
There is a run file in the downloaded zip file, but I don't know yet how
to run it???
RobH
2019-10-31 13:08:56 UTC
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Post by Jonathan N. Little
Post by RobH
Is there any usb to vga adaptor which works under linux ubuntu.
There seems to be plenty for windows, but can;t find one for linux.
DisplayLink
<https://www.displaylink.com/downloads/ubuntu>
Ok thanks , but do you know how to actually run it or install it.
There is a run file in the downloaded zip file, but I don't know yet how
to run it???
Oops, disregard the above, I found the how to install page now, doh!
RobH
2019-10-31 13:15:48 UTC
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Post by RobH
Post by Jonathan N. Little
Post by RobH
Is there any usb to vga adaptor which works under linux ubuntu.
There seems to be plenty for windows, but can;t find one for linux.
DisplayLink
<https://www.displaylink.com/downloads/ubuntu>
Ok thanks , but do you know how to actually run it or install it.
There is a run file in the downloaded zip file, but I don't know yet
how to run it???
Oops, disregard the above, I found the how to install page now, doh!
After running the very long command line, none of the packages could be
located.
I guess I'll have to start looking for them.
Jonathan N. Little
2019-10-31 14:00:00 UTC
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Post by RobH
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Post by RobH
Is there any usb to vga adaptor which works under linux ubuntu.
There seems to be plenty for windows, but can;t find one for linux.
DisplayLink
<https://www.displaylink.com/downloads/ubuntu>
Ok thanks , but do you know how to actually run it or install it.
There is a run file in the downloaded zip file, but I don't know yet
how to run it???
Oops, disregard the above, I found the how to install page now, doh!
After running the very long command line, none of the packages could be
located.
I guess I'll have to start looking for them.
What very long command line?

sudo sh ./displaylink-driver-5.1.26.run

In most of this proprietary drivers you need build-essential installed:

sudo apt install build-essential

if missing libraries libraries after running driver installer try

sudo apt --fix-broken install
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Jonathan
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LITTLE WORKS STUDIO
http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com
RobH
2019-10-31 15:06:40 UTC
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Post by RobH
Post by RobH
Post by RobH
Post by Jonathan N. Little
Post by RobH
Is there any usb to vga adaptor which works under linux ubuntu.
There seems to be plenty for windows, but can;t find one for linux.
DisplayLink
<https://www.displaylink.com/downloads/ubuntu>
Ok thanks , but do you know how to actually run it or install it.
There is a run file in the downloaded zip file, but I don't know yet
how to run it???
Oops, disregard the above, I found the how to install page now, doh!
After running the very long command line, none of the packages could be
located.
I guess I'll have to start looking for them.
What very long command line?
sudo sh ./displaylink-driver-5.1.26.run
sudo apt install build-essential
if missing libraries libraries after running driver installer try
sudo apt --fix-broken install
The very long line was on a link on the DisplayLink webpage for
installing seral packages all in 1 go.

Anyway after running sudo ./displaylink-driver-5.1.26.run
Unsatisfied dependencies. Missing component: DKMS

I downloaded dkms 2.3 and in then debian folder there is a file called
install. I don't know how to actually get it to run.
Jonathan N. Little
2019-10-31 21:22:44 UTC
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Post by Jonathan N. Little
Post by RobH
Post by RobH
Post by RobH
Post by Jonathan N. Little
Post by RobH
Is there any usb to vga adaptor which works under linux ubuntu.
There seems to be plenty for windows, but can;t find one for linux.
DisplayLink
<https://www.displaylink.com/downloads/ubuntu>
Ok thanks , but do you know how to actually run it or install it.
There is a run file in the downloaded zip file, but I don't know yet
how to run it???
Oops, disregard the above, I found the how to install page now, doh!
After running the very long command line, none of the packages could be
located.
I guess I'll have to start looking for them.
What very long command line?
sudo sh ./displaylink-driver-5.1.26.run
sudo apt install build-essential
if missing libraries libraries after running driver installer try
sudo apt --fix-broken install
The very long line was on a link on the DisplayLink webpage for
installing seral packages all in 1 go.
Anyway after running sudo ./displaylink-driver-5.1.26.run
Unsatisfied dependencies. Missing component: DKMS
I downloaded dkms 2.3 and in then debian folder there is a file called
install. I don't know how to actually get it to run.
what was the actual file name you downloaded?
--
Take care,

Jonathan
-------------------
LITTLE WORKS STUDIO
http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com
RobH
2019-10-31 22:54:21 UTC
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Post by RobH
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Post by RobH
Post by RobH
Post by Jonathan N. Little
Post by RobH
Is there any usb to vga adaptor which works under linux ubuntu.
There seems to be plenty for windows, but can;t find one for linux.
DisplayLink
<https://www.displaylink.com/downloads/ubuntu>
Ok thanks , but do you know how to actually run it or install it.
There is a run file in the downloaded zip file, but I don't know yet
how to run it???
Oops, disregard the above, I found the how to install page now, doh!
After running the very long command line, none of the packages could be
located.
I guess I'll have to start looking for them.
What very long command line?
sudo sh ./displaylink-driver-5.1.26.run
sudo apt install build-essential
if missing libraries libraries after running driver installer try
sudo apt --fix-broken install
The very long line was on a link on the DisplayLink webpage for
installing seral packages all in 1 go.
Anyway after running sudo ./displaylink-driver-5.1.26.run
Unsatisfied dependencies. Missing component: DKMS
I downloaded dkms 2.3 and in then debian folder there is a file called
install. I don't know how to actually get it to run.
what was the actual file name you downloaded?
dkms 2.3
Jonathan N. Little
2019-11-01 01:21:03 UTC
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Post by Jonathan N. Little
Post by RobH
I downloaded dkms 2.3 and in then debian folder there is a file called
install. I don't know how to actually get it to run.
what was the actual file name you downloaded?
dkms 2.3
I highly doubt that is the *filename* "dkms 2.3" with an embedded space?
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Take care,

Jonathan
-------------------
LITTLE WORKS STUDIO
http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com
Jonathan N. Little
2019-11-01 01:30:29 UTC
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Post by RobH
Post by Jonathan N. Little
what was the actual file name you downloaded?
dkms 2.3
Okay that was not the filename, but if you are on 18.04 then the dkms is
in the repository:

apt-cache policy dkms
dkms:
Installed: 2.3-3ubuntu9.5
Candidate: 2.3-3ubuntu9.7
Version table:
2.3-3ubuntu9.7 500
500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic-updates/main
amd64 Packages
500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic-updates/main i386
Packages
*** 2.3-3ubuntu9.5 100
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
2.3-3ubuntu9 500
500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic/main amd64 Packages
500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic/main i386 Packages


To install it if it is not install is just via apt:

sudo apt install dkms
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Take care,

Jonathan
-------------------
LITTLE WORKS STUDIO
http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com
RobH
2019-11-01 09:52:44 UTC
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Post by Jonathan N. Little
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Post by RobH
Post by Jonathan N. Little
what was the actual file name you downloaded?
dkms 2.3
Okay that was not the filename, but if you are on 18.04 then the dkms is
apt-cache policy dkms
Installed: 2.3-3ubuntu9.5
Candidate: 2.3-3ubuntu9.7
2.3-3ubuntu9.7 500
500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic-updates/main
amd64 Packages
500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic-updates/main i386
Packages
*** 2.3-3ubuntu9.5 100
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
2.3-3ubuntu9 500
500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic/main amd64 Packages
500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic/main i386 Packages
sudo apt install dkms
Oops, my apologies, no dkms 2.3 was indeed not the file name. It was
just called 'install' inside a debian folder of dkms 2.3

I posted this before:
I downloaded dkms 2.3 and in then debian folder there is a file called
install. I don't know how to actually get it to run.
Jonathan N. Little
2019-11-01 20:13:53 UTC
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Post by RobH
Oops, my apologies, no dkms 2.3 was indeed not the file name. It was
just called 'install' inside a debian folder of dkms 2.3
I downloaded dkms 2.3 and in then debian folder there is a file called
install. I don't know how to actually get it to run.
You don't need to compile from source, dkms package is already in the
repository. Just install with apt

sudo apt install dkms
--
Take care,

Jonathan
-------------------
LITTLE WORKS STUDIO
http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com
RobH
2019-11-01 23:06:45 UTC
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Post by Jonathan N. Little
Post by RobH
Oops, my apologies, no dkms 2.3 was indeed not the file name. It was
just called 'install' inside a debian folder of dkms 2.3
I downloaded dkms 2.3 and in then debian folder there is a file called
install. I don't know how to actually get it to run.
You don't need to compile from source, dkms package is already in the
repository. Just install with apt
sudo apt install dkms
Thanks, but I got this error message from a clean boot up:

***@rob-nuc:~/Downloads/dkms-2.3/debian$ sudo apt install dkms
[sudo] password for rob:
E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock-frontend - open (11: Resource
temporarily unavailable)
E: Unable to acquire the dpkg frontend lock
(/var/lib/dpkg/lock-frontend), is another process using it?
***@rob-nuc:~/Downloads/dkms-2.3/debian$
Cybe R. Wizard
2019-11-02 00:38:30 UTC
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On Fri, 1 Nov 2019 23:06:45 +0000
Post by Jonathan N. Little
Post by RobH
Oops, my apologies, no dkms 2.3 was indeed not the file name. It
was just called 'install' inside a debian folder of dkms 2.3
I downloaded dkms 2.3 and in then debian folder there is a file
called install. I don't know how to actually get it to run.
You don't need to compile from source, dkms package is already in
the repository. Just install with apt
sudo apt install dkms
Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to acquire the dpkg
frontend lock (/var/lib/dpkg/lock-frontend), is another process using
Are you trying to use apt in a terminal window while synaptic or some
other package manager is open? That is the typical error message for
such a condition.
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My other computer is a HOLMES IV with the Mycroft OS
My other car is a Chandler MetalSmith Mark III
Paul
2019-11-02 02:14:51 UTC
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Post by Cybe R. Wizard
On Fri, 1 Nov 2019 23:06:45 +0000
Post by Jonathan N. Little
Post by RobH
Oops, my apologies, no dkms 2.3 was indeed not the file name. It
was just called 'install' inside a debian folder of dkms 2.3
I downloaded dkms 2.3 and in then debian folder there is a file
called install. I don't know how to actually get it to run.
You don't need to compile from source, dkms package is already in
the repository. Just install with apt
sudo apt install dkms
Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to acquire the dpkg
frontend lock (/var/lib/dpkg/lock-frontend), is another process using
Are you trying to use apt in a terminal window while synaptic or some
other package manager is open? That is the typical error message for
such a condition.
On a distro that computes updates immediately at boot, there
can be a conflict between the user trying to lock dpkg and
the system already having it locked. You just have to
wait until the other process is finished (or find the mother
and hammer it).

So there are at least three potential sources of conflict.

command line Apt
usage of synaptic package manager GUI
whatever the system is doing to compute updates, right after bootup

Wait until the above condition clears, and try again.

Paul
Jonathan N. Little
2019-11-02 03:13:02 UTC
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Post by Paul
Post by Cybe R. Wizard
On Fri, 1 Nov 2019 23:06:45 +0000
Post by Jonathan N. Little
 
Post by RobH
Oops, my apologies, no dkms 2.3 was indeed not the file name. It
was just called 'install' inside a debian folder of dkms 2.3
I downloaded dkms 2.3 and in then debian folder there is a file
called install. I don't know how to actually get it to run. 
You don't need to compile from source, dkms package is already in
the repository. Just install with apt
sudo apt install dkms
 
Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to acquire the dpkg
frontend lock (/var/lib/dpkg/lock-frontend), is another process using
Are you trying to use apt in a terminal window while synaptic or some
other package manager is open?  That is the typical error message for
such a condition.
On a distro that computes updates immediately at boot, there
can be a conflict between the user trying to lock dpkg and
the system already having it locked. You just have to
wait until the other process is finished (or find the mother
and hammer it).
So there are at least three potential sources of conflict.
command line Apt
usage of synaptic package manager GUI
whatever the system is doing to compute updates, right after bootup
Wait until the above condition clears, and try again.
The process is unattended-upgrades...
--
Take care,

Jonathan
-------------------
LITTLE WORKS STUDIO
http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com
RobH
2019-11-02 08:25:37 UTC
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Post by Jonathan N. Little
Post by Paul
Post by Cybe R. Wizard
On Fri, 1 Nov 2019 23:06:45 +0000
Post by Jonathan N. Little
Post by RobH
Oops, my apologies, no dkms 2.3 was indeed not the file name. It
was just called 'install' inside a debian folder of dkms 2.3
I downloaded dkms 2.3 and in then debian folder there is a file
called install. I don't know how to actually get it to run.
You don't need to compile from source, dkms package is already in
the repository. Just install with apt
sudo apt install dkms
Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to acquire the dpkg
frontend lock (/var/lib/dpkg/lock-frontend), is another process using
Are you trying to use apt in a terminal window while synaptic or some
other package manager is open?  That is the typical error message for
such a condition.
On a distro that computes updates immediately at boot, there
can be a conflict between the user trying to lock dpkg and
the system already having it locked. You just have to
wait until the other process is finished (or find the mother
and hammer it).
So there are at least three potential sources of conflict.
command line Apt
usage of synaptic package manager GUI
whatever the system is doing to compute updates, right after bootup
Wait until the above condition clears, and try again.
The process is unattended-upgrades...
Ok, I tried again several hours later , and this time:

***@rob-nuc:~/Downloads/dkms-2.3/debian$ sudo apt install dkms
[sudo] password for rob:
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer
required:
fonts-liberation2 fonts-opensymbol gir1.2-geocodeglib-1.0
gir1.2-gst-plugins-base-1.0 gir1.2-gstreamer-1.0 gir1.2-gudev-1.0
gir1.2-udisks-2.0 grilo-plugins-0.3-base gstreamer1.0-gtk3
libboost-date-time1.65.1 libboost-filesystem1.65.1
libboost-iostreams1.65.1
libboost-locale1.65.1 libcdr-0.1-1 libclucene-contribs1v5
libclucene-core1v5
libcmis-0.5-5v5 libcolamd2 libdazzle-1.0-0 libe-book-0.1-1
libedataserverui-1.2-2 libeot0 libepubgen-0.1-1 libetonyek-0.1-1
libevent-2.1-6 libexiv2-14 libfreerdp-client2-2 libfreerdp2-2 libgc1c2
libgee-0.8-2 libgexiv2-2 libgom-1.0-0 libgpgmepp6 libgpod-common libgpod4
liblangtag-common liblangtag1 liblirc-client0 liblua5.3-0
libmediaart-2.0-0
libmspub-0.1-1 libodfgen-0.1-1 libqqwing2v5 libraw16 librevenge-0.0-0
libsgutils2-2 libssh-4 libsuitesparseconfig5 libvncclient1 libwinpr2-2
libxmlsec1 libxmlsec1-nss lp-solve media-player-info python3-mako
python3-markupsafe syslinux syslinux-common syslinux-legacy
usb-creator-common
Use 'sudo apt autoremove' to remove them.
Suggested packages:
menu
The following NEW packages will be installed
dkms
0 to upgrade, 1 to newly install, 0 to remove and 2 not to upgrade.
1 not fully installed or removed.
Need to get 68.1 kB of archives.
After this operation, 291 kB of additional disk space will be used.
Ign:1 http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic-updates/main amd64 dkms
all 2.3-3ubuntu9.7
Err:1 http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic-updates/main amd64 dkms
all 2.3-3ubuntu9.7
Could not resolve ‘gb.archive.ubuntu.com’
E: Failed to fetch
http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/d/dkms/dkms_2.3-3ubuntu9.7_all.deb
Could not resolve ‘gb.archive.ubuntu.com’
E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with
--fix-missing?


Afterwards I did sudo apt update, and sudo apt --fix missing, but that
(--fix missing) was not understood.

How do I know if DisplayLink is actually working
.
Thanks
RobH
2019-11-02 08:40:36 UTC
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Post by Jonathan N. Little
Post by Paul
Post by Cybe R. Wizard
On Fri, 1 Nov 2019 23:06:45 +0000
Post by Jonathan N. Little
Post by RobH
Oops, my apologies, no dkms 2.3 was indeed not the file name. It
was just called 'install' inside a debian folder of dkms 2.3
I downloaded dkms 2.3 and in then debian folder there is a file
called install. I don't know how to actually get it to run.
You don't need to compile from source, dkms package is already in
the repository. Just install with apt
sudo apt install dkms
Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to acquire the dpkg
frontend lock (/var/lib/dpkg/lock-frontend), is another process using
Are you trying to use apt in a terminal window while synaptic or some
other package manager is open?  That is the typical error message for
such a condition.
On a distro that computes updates immediately at boot, there
can be a conflict between the user trying to lock dpkg and
the system already having it locked. You just have to
wait until the other process is finished (or find the mother
and hammer it).
So there are at least three potential sources of conflict.
command line Apt
usage of synaptic package manager GUI
whatever the system is doing to compute updates, right after bootup
Wait until the above condition clears, and try again.
The process is unattended-upgrades...
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer
  fonts-liberation2 fonts-opensymbol gir1.2-geocodeglib-1.0
  gir1.2-gst-plugins-base-1.0 gir1.2-gstreamer-1.0 gir1.2-gudev-1.0
  gir1.2-udisks-2.0 grilo-plugins-0.3-base gstreamer1.0-gtk3
  libboost-date-time1.65.1 libboost-filesystem1.65.1
libboost-iostreams1.65.1
  libboost-locale1.65.1 libcdr-0.1-1 libclucene-contribs1v5
libclucene-core1v5
  libcmis-0.5-5v5 libcolamd2 libdazzle-1.0-0 libe-book-0.1-1
  libedataserverui-1.2-2 libeot0 libepubgen-0.1-1 libetonyek-0.1-1
  libevent-2.1-6 libexiv2-14 libfreerdp-client2-2 libfreerdp2-2 libgc1c2
  libgee-0.8-2 libgexiv2-2 libgom-1.0-0 libgpgmepp6 libgpod-common
libgpod4
  liblangtag-common liblangtag1 liblirc-client0 liblua5.3-0
libmediaart-2.0-0
  libmspub-0.1-1 libodfgen-0.1-1 libqqwing2v5 libraw16 librevenge-0.0-0
  libsgutils2-2 libssh-4 libsuitesparseconfig5 libvncclient1 libwinpr2-2
  libxmlsec1 libxmlsec1-nss lp-solve media-player-info python3-mako
  python3-markupsafe syslinux syslinux-common syslinux-legacy
  usb-creator-common
Use 'sudo apt autoremove' to remove them.
  menu
The following NEW packages will be installed
  dkms
0 to upgrade, 1 to newly install, 0 to remove and 2 not to upgrade.
1 not fully installed or removed.
Need to get 68.1 kB of archives.
After this operation, 291 kB of additional disk space will be used.
Ign:1 http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic-updates/main amd64 dkms
all 2.3-3ubuntu9.7
Err:1 http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic-updates/main amd64 dkms
all 2.3-3ubuntu9.7
  Could not resolve ‘gb.archive.ubuntu.com’
E: Failed to fetch
http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/d/dkms/dkms_2.3-3ubuntu9.7_all.deb
 Could not resolve ‘gb.archive.ubuntu.com’
E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with
--fix-missing?
Afterwards I did sudo apt update, and sudo apt --fix missing, but that
(--fix missing) was not understood.
How do I know if DisplayLink is actually working
.
Thanks
Jonathan N. Little
2019-11-02 14:11:53 UTC
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Post by RobH
E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with
--fix-missing?
Afterwards I did sudo apt update, and sudo apt --fix missing, but that
(--fix missing) was not understood.
You need to be more observant, argument does not have a space, it is
--fix-broken with a hyphen
--
Take care,

Jonathan
-------------------
LITTLE WORKS STUDIO
http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com
RobH
2019-11-02 14:54:38 UTC
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Post by Jonathan N. Little
Post by RobH
E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with
--fix-missing?
Afterwards I did sudo apt update, and sudo apt --fix missing, but that
(--fix missing) was not understood.
You need to be more observant, argument does not have a space, it is
--fix-broken with a hyphen
Yes I do and it does show a hyphen.
I don't need to do it now, as it went all ok.
RobH
2019-11-02 08:46:16 UTC
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Post by Jonathan N. Little
Post by Paul
Post by Cybe R. Wizard
On Fri, 1 Nov 2019 23:06:45 +0000
Post by Jonathan N. Little
Post by RobH
Oops, my apologies, no dkms 2.3 was indeed not the file name. It
was just called 'install' inside a debian folder of dkms 2.3
I downloaded dkms 2.3 and in then debian folder there is a file
called install. I don't know how to actually get it to run.
You don't need to compile from source, dkms package is already in
the repository. Just install with apt
sudo apt install dkms
Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to acquire the dpkg
frontend lock (/var/lib/dpkg/lock-frontend), is another process using
Are you trying to use apt in a terminal window while synaptic or some
other package manager is open?  That is the typical error message for
such a condition.
On a distro that computes updates immediately at boot, there
can be a conflict between the user trying to lock dpkg and
the system already having it locked. You just have to
wait until the other process is finished (or find the mother
and hammer it).
So there are at least three potential sources of conflict.
command line Apt
usage of synaptic package manager GUI
whatever the system is doing to compute updates, right after bootup
Wait until the above condition clears, and try again.
The process is unattended-upgrades...
Ok, I tried agina several hours later, and it all went well, dkms was
installed successfully.
I then ran the displaylink-driver file again and there were no errors
this time and installation was complete.

Is there something I have to do to get the actual displaylink to work,
ie show the desktop of a monitor when connected to the usb to vga
adaptor. I just tried it and there was no desktop, just a black screen
Adrian Caspersz
2019-11-02 10:49:19 UTC
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Post by RobH
Ok, I tried agina several hours later, and it all went well, dkms was
installed successfully.
I then ran the displaylink-driver file again and there were no errors
this time and installation was complete.
Is there something I have to do to get the actual displaylink to work,
ie show the desktop of a monitor when connected to the usb to vga
adaptor.  I just tried it and there was no desktop, just a black screen
https://support.displaylink.com/knowledgebase/articles/675136-how-to-configure-displaylink-displays-on-ubuntu
--
Adrian C
RobH
2019-11-02 11:27:20 UTC
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Post by Adrian Caspersz
Post by RobH
Ok, I tried agina several hours later, and it all went well, dkms was
installed successfully.
I then ran the displaylink-driver file again and there were no errors
this time and installation was complete.
Is there something I have to do to get the actual displaylink to work,
ie show the desktop of a monitor when connected to the usb to vga
adaptor.  I just tried it and there was no desktop, just a black screen
https://support.displaylink.com/knowledgebase/articles/675136-how-to-configure-displaylink-displays-on-ubuntu
Thanks for the link, and I am using one of these:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07TB8DDSL/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

and still no video is showing
Adrian Caspersz
2019-11-03 13:32:21 UTC
Permalink
Post by RobH
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07TB8DDSL/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
and still no video is showing
Looks to be a windows only thing and not displaylink.

Fling it back at Amazon and get one that is?
--
Adrian C
Adrian Caspersz
2019-11-03 13:42:00 UTC
Permalink
Post by Adrian Caspersz
Post by RobH
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07TB8DDSL/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
and still no video is showing
Looks to be a windows only thing and not displaylink.
Fling it back at Amazon and get one that is?
Have a search on eBay/Amazon for Targus USB3 ACP71EU, I've used one
before (and been impressed for office work, though it was on Windows 7)

e.g

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Targus-ACP71EU-Universal-USB-3-0-Docking-Station-with-HDMI-Power-Tips/283631281691?hash=item4209bde61b:g:Tr4AAOSwYZJdlMyR

Whatever you choose, check the model number with their support site -
there are only some supported with drivers for Ubuntu.

e.g.
https://www.targus.com/form/download_support.aspx?regionid=6&sku=ACP71EU

Failure to look before ye leap will end up in frustrating situations
like this.
--
Adrian C
Adrian Caspersz
2019-11-03 13:45:32 UTC
Permalink
On 03/11/2019 13:42, Adrian Caspersz wrote:
//www.targus.com/form/download_support.aspx?regionid=6&sku=ACP71EU
Post by Adrian Caspersz
Failure to look before ye leap will end up in frustrating situations
like this.
After making a stupid statement like that, I've realised I've guided you
to a second-hand untested offering with no power supply.

Oops :-(
--
Adrian C
RobH
2019-11-03 14:31:37 UTC
Permalink
Post by Adrian Caspersz
Targus USB3 ACP71EU,
Thanks , and yes then one I bought has gone back to Amazon.

I found this one with the Displalink chipset :

https://www.amazon.co.uk/ClimaxDigital-CUH350D-Adaptor-Multiple-Monitors/dp/B004E7B8D8/ref=sr_1_14?keywords=displaylink&qid=1572790672&sr=8-14

I've also registered with the DisplaLink forum and have asked on there
what to buy for my needs.


How do the targus ones work with just one vga or DVI socket and usb
ports for 2 monitors.


This one is impressive:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Targus-Multi-Display-Adapter-Black-ACA928EUZ/dp/B01N3PSU8J/ref=sr_1_9?keywords=targus+acp71eu&qid=1572791366&sr=8-9
Bobbie Sellers
2019-11-03 15:34:23 UTC
Permalink
Post by RobH
Post by Adrian Caspersz
Targus USB3 ACP71EU,
Thanks , and yes then one I bought has gone back to Amazon.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/ClimaxDigital-CUH350D-Adaptor-Multiple-Monitors/dp/B004E7B8D8/ref=sr_1_14?keywords=displaylink&qid=1572790672&sr=8-14
I've also registered with the DisplaLink forum and have asked on there
what to buy for my needs.
How do the targus ones work with just one vga or DVI socket and usb
ports for 2 monitors.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Targus-Multi-Display-Adapter-Black-ACA928EUZ/dp/B01N3PSU8J/ref=sr_1_9?keywords=targus+acp71eu&qid=1572791366&sr=8-9
Looked there, weak on technical specs so to the Targus site
and checked off Linux in the sidebar and you can have this.
<https://us.targus.com/products/usb-c-displayport-alt-mode-travel-dock-dock411usz>

bliss
--
bliss dash SF 4 ever at dslextreme dot com
RobH
2019-11-03 17:08:55 UTC
Permalink
Post by RobH
Post by Adrian Caspersz
Targus USB3 ACP71EU,
Thanks , and yes then one I bought has gone back to Amazon.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/ClimaxDigital-CUH350D-Adaptor-Multiple-Monitors/dp/B004E7B8D8/ref=sr_1_14?keywords=displaylink&qid=1572790672&sr=8-14
I've also registered with the DisplaLink forum and have asked on there
what to buy for my needs.
How do the targus ones work with just one vga or DVI socket and usb
ports for 2 monitors.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Targus-Multi-Display-Adapter-Black-ACA928EUZ/dp/B01N3PSU8J/ref=sr_1_9?keywords=targus+acp71eu&qid=1572791366&sr=8-9
    Looked there, weak on technical specs so to the Targus site
and checked off Linux in the sidebar and you can have this.
<https://us.targus.com/products/usb-c-displayport-alt-mode-travel-dock-dock411usz>
    bliss
I'm in the uk and there is no usb-c port on my Intel NUC box, but thanks
anyway.
Adrian Caspersz
2019-11-03 18:05:28 UTC
Permalink
Post by RobH
Post by Adrian Caspersz
Targus USB3 ACP71EU,
Thanks , and yes then one I bought has gone back to Amazon.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/ClimaxDigital-CUH350D-Adaptor-Multiple-Monitors/dp/B004E7B8D8/ref=sr_1_14?keywords=displaylink&qid=1572790672&sr=8-14
and read in the title ...
"NO FOR Surface RT, Mac OS X, and Linux/Unix"

So, you don't want that ...
Post by RobH
I've also registered with the DisplaLink forum and have asked on there
what to buy for my needs. >
How do the targus ones work with just one vga or DVI socket and usb
ports for 2 monitors.
??

One monitor is driven normally from your main device (Laptop, Desktop,
NUC) and the other is off the USB thing.
Post by RobH
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Targus-Multi-Display-Adapter-Black-ACA928EUZ/dp/B01N3PSU8J/ref=sr_1_9?keywords=targus+acp71eu&qid=1572791366&sr=8-9
I've seen these things sub-£20. You don't need fancy charging and
additional USB & ethernet ports etc...

The point is that whatever you choose, the manufacturers own support
website (not some third party) must state and offer drivers for download.
--
Adrian C
RobH
2019-11-04 15:20:40 UTC
Permalink
Post by Adrian Caspersz
Post by RobH
Post by Adrian Caspersz
Targus USB3 ACP71EU,
Thanks , and yes then one I bought has gone back to Amazon.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/ClimaxDigital-CUH350D-Adaptor-Multiple-Monitors/dp/B004E7B8D8/ref=sr_1_14?keywords=displaylink&qid=1572790672&sr=8-14
and read in the title ...
"NO FOR Surface RT, Mac OS X, and Linux/Unix"
So, you don't want that ...
Post by RobH
I've also registered with the DisplaLink forum and have asked on there
what to buy for my needs. >
How do the targus ones work with just one vga or DVI socket and usb
ports for 2 monitors.
??
One monitor is driven normally from your main device (Laptop, Desktop,
NUC) and the other is off the USB thing.
Post by RobH
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Targus-Multi-Display-Adapter-Black-ACA928EUZ/dp/B01N3PSU8J/ref=sr_1_9?keywords=targus+acp71eu&qid=1572791366&sr=8-9
I've seen these things sub-£20. You don't need fancy charging and
additional USB & ethernet ports etc...
The point is that whatever you choose, the manufacturers own support
website (not some third party) must state and offer drivers for download.
 --
Adrian C
Ok, I actually bought this and it works on ubuntu now.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00A2E1MQA/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

It was £45 but it works and that is what I wanted.

Thanks
Paul
2019-11-04 19:33:16 UTC
Permalink
Post by RobH
Post by Adrian Caspersz
Post by RobH
Post by Adrian Caspersz
Targus USB3 ACP71EU,
Thanks , and yes then one I bought has gone back to Amazon.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/ClimaxDigital-CUH350D-Adaptor-Multiple-Monitors/dp/B004E7B8D8/ref=sr_1_14?keywords=displaylink&qid=1572790672&sr=8-14
and read in the title ...
"NO FOR Surface RT, Mac OS X, and Linux/Unix"
So, you don't want that ...
Post by RobH
I've also registered with the DisplaLink forum and have asked on
there what to buy for my needs. >
How do the targus ones work with just one vga or DVI socket and usb
ports for 2 monitors.
??
One monitor is driven normally from your main device (Laptop, Desktop,
NUC) and the other is off the USB thing.
Post by RobH
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Targus-Multi-Display-Adapter-Black-ACA928EUZ/dp/B01N3PSU8J/ref=sr_1_9?keywords=targus+acp71eu&qid=1572791366&sr=8-9
I've seen these things sub-£20. You don't need fancy charging and
additional USB & ethernet ports etc...
The point is that whatever you choose, the manufacturers own support
website (not some third party) must state and offer drivers for download.
--
Adrian C
Ok, I actually bought this and it works on ubuntu now.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00A2E1MQA/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
It was £45 but it works and that is what I wanted.
Thanks
Then you should be able to do LSUSB now and
verify the PNP evidence is present.

*******

Running a DisplayPort to VGA or a DisplayPort to DVI
from the NUC, could be slightly cheaper than that, and
have better support via your Intel GPU. I have a handful
of those adapters, for my latest video card that lacks
VGA.

The USB3 DisplayLink product, sends a slightly compressed
protocol to the dongle, where the frame buffer is maintained.
It will take some CPU to do that. If you play a movie on
that monitor, the CPU usage should jump up in response.
(The USB2 DisplayLink adapters use a much heavier compression
and the screen updates like a slide show on those.)

If you played a movie, while using a DisplayPort to VGA
adapter, the movie playback should lead to a more
muted response, especially if you use a Hollywood
CODEC/format that the Intel GPU supports natively.
Intel has QuickSync for some decoding tasks such
as movie playback, but it likely does not support
all formats (Ogg/Theora).

Paul
RobH
2019-11-05 08:32:53 UTC
Permalink
Post by Paul
Post by RobH
Post by Adrian Caspersz
Post by RobH
Post by Adrian Caspersz
Targus USB3 ACP71EU,
Thanks , and yes then one I bought has gone back to Amazon.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/ClimaxDigital-CUH350D-Adaptor-Multiple-Monitors/dp/B004E7B8D8/ref=sr_1_14?keywords=displaylink&qid=1572790672&sr=8-14
and read in the title ...
"NO FOR Surface RT, Mac OS X, and Linux/Unix"
So, you don't want that ...
Post by RobH
I've also registered with the DisplaLink forum and have asked on
there what to buy for my needs. >
How do the targus ones work with just one vga or DVI socket and usb
ports for 2 monitors.
??
One monitor is driven normally from your main device (Laptop,
Desktop, NUC) and the other is off the USB thing.
Post by RobH
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Targus-Multi-Display-Adapter-Black-ACA928EUZ/dp/B01N3PSU8J/ref=sr_1_9?keywords=targus+acp71eu&qid=1572791366&sr=8-9
I've seen these things sub-£20. You don't need fancy charging and
additional USB & ethernet ports etc...
The point is that whatever you choose, the manufacturers own support
website (not some third party) must state and offer drivers for download.
  --
Adrian C
Ok, I actually bought this and it works on ubuntu now.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00A2E1MQA/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
It was £45 but it works and that is what I wanted.
Thanks
Then you should be able to do LSUSB now and
verify the PNP evidence is present.
*******
Running a DisplayPort to VGA or a DisplayPort to DVI
from the NUC, could be slightly cheaper than that, and
have better support via your Intel GPU. I have a handful
of those adapters, for my latest video card that lacks
VGA.
The USB3 DisplayLink product, sends a slightly compressed
protocol to the dongle, where the frame buffer is maintained.
It will take some CPU to do that. If you play a movie on
that monitor, the CPU usage should jump up in response.
(The USB2 DisplayLink adapters use a much heavier compression
and the screen updates like a slide show on those.)
If you played a movie, while using a DisplayPort to VGA
adapter, the movie playback should lead to a more
muted response, especially if you use a Hollywood
CODEC/format that the Intel GPU supports natively.
Intel has QuickSync for some decoding tasks such
as movie playback, but it likely does not support
all formats (Ogg/Theora).
   Paul
After I plugged in the dongle, I did LSUSB and the 17e9 is/was listed. I
hoped then the dongle would work, and it does.
I don't play films or do games, and the NUC is only used for a weather
reading program and a CCTV program on an attached spinning disk.

Now I can dismantle a desktop pc which was previously used for the same.
Thanks
Adrian Caspersz
2019-11-05 19:23:39 UTC
Permalink
Post by RobH
Ok, I actually bought this and it works on ubuntu now.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00A2E1MQA/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
It was £45 but it works and that is what I wanted.
Thanks
Great news :)
--
Adrian C
RobH
2019-11-05 20:10:44 UTC
Permalink
Post by Adrian Caspersz
Post by RobH
Ok, I actually bought this and it works on ubuntu now.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00A2E1MQA/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
It was £45 but it works and that is what I wanted.
Thanks
Great news :)
It took some getting there, but it was worth it :)

Paul
2019-11-02 10:53:34 UTC
Permalink
Post by RobH
Post by Jonathan N. Little
Post by Paul
Post by Cybe R. Wizard
On Fri, 1 Nov 2019 23:06:45 +0000
Post by Jonathan N. Little
Post by RobH
Oops, my apologies, no dkms 2.3 was indeed not the file name. It
was just called 'install' inside a debian folder of dkms 2.3
I downloaded dkms 2.3 and in then debian folder there is a file
called install. I don't know how to actually get it to run.
You don't need to compile from source, dkms package is already in
the repository. Just install with apt
sudo apt install dkms
Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to acquire the dpkg
frontend lock (/var/lib/dpkg/lock-frontend), is another process using
Are you trying to use apt in a terminal window while synaptic or some
other package manager is open? That is the typical error message for
such a condition.
On a distro that computes updates immediately at boot, there
can be a conflict between the user trying to lock dpkg and
the system already having it locked. You just have to
wait until the other process is finished (or find the mother
and hammer it).
So there are at least three potential sources of conflict.
command line Apt
usage of synaptic package manager GUI
whatever the system is doing to compute updates, right after bootup
Wait until the above condition clears, and try again.
The process is unattended-upgrades...
Ok, I tried agina several hours later, and it all went well, dkms was
installed successfully.
I then ran the displaylink-driver file again and there were no errors
this time and installation was complete.
Is there something I have to do to get the actual displaylink to work,
ie show the desktop of a monitor when connected to the usb to vga
adaptor. I just tried it and there was no desktop, just a black screen
The most useful command of the lot here

https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/asus-mb168b-driver-4175645315/

xrandr --listproviders

As that seems to reflect that a second provider is present, and
show the connector name. Then, when you look at less useful pages
like this one, things will make slightly more sense.

https://support.displaylink.com/knowledgebase/articles/675136-how-to-configure-displaylink-displays-on-ubuntu

Paul
RobH
2019-11-02 11:32:16 UTC
Permalink
Post by Paul
Post by RobH
Post by Jonathan N. Little
Post by Paul
Post by Cybe R. Wizard
On Fri, 1 Nov 2019 23:06:45 +0000
Post by Jonathan N. Little
Post by RobH
Oops, my apologies, no dkms 2.3 was indeed not the file name. It
was just called 'install' inside a debian folder of dkms 2.3
I downloaded dkms 2.3 and in then debian folder there is a file
called install. I don't know how to actually get it to run.
You don't need to compile from source, dkms package is already in
the repository. Just install with apt
sudo apt install dkms
Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to acquire the dpkg
frontend lock (/var/lib/dpkg/lock-frontend), is another process using
Are you trying to use apt in a terminal window while synaptic or some
other package manager is open?  That is the typical error message for
such a condition.
On a distro that computes updates immediately at boot, there
can be a conflict between the user trying to lock dpkg and
the system already having it locked. You just have to
wait until the other process is finished (or find the mother
and hammer it).
So there are at least three potential sources of conflict.
command line Apt
usage of synaptic package manager GUI
whatever the system is doing to compute updates, right after bootup
Wait until the above condition clears, and try again.
The process is unattended-upgrades...
Ok, I tried agina several hours later, and it all went well, dkms was
installed successfully.
I then ran the displaylink-driver file again and there were no errors
this time and installation was complete.
Is there something I have to do to get the actual displaylink to work,
ie show the desktop of a monitor when connected to the usb to vga
adaptor.  I just tried it and there was no desktop, just a black screen
The most useful command of the lot here
https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/asus-mb168b-driver-4175645315/
   xrandr --listproviders
As that seems to reflect that a second provider is present, and
show the connector name. Then, when you look at less useful pages
like this one, things will make slightly more sense.
https://support.displaylink.com/knowledgebase/articles/675136-how-to-configure-displaylink-displays-on-ubuntu
   Paul
The 2nd display is not showing up under hardware, devices, screen
display, and when I run the above command I get this:

***@rob-nuc:~$ xrandr --listproviders
Providers: number : 1
Provider 0: id: 0x45 cap: 0x9, Source Output, Sink Offload crtcs: 3
outputs: 3 associated providers: 0 name:modesetting

It doesn't look like the usb3 to vga adaptor is picking up the 2nd
monitor. Although it does appear as a 8mb volume.

Thanks
Paul
2019-11-02 11:55:26 UTC
Permalink
Post by RobH
Post by Paul
Post by RobH
Post by Jonathan N. Little
Post by Paul
Post by Cybe R. Wizard
On Fri, 1 Nov 2019 23:06:45 +0000
Post by Jonathan N. Little
Post by RobH
Oops, my apologies, no dkms 2.3 was indeed not the file name. It
was just called 'install' inside a debian folder of dkms 2.3
I downloaded dkms 2.3 and in then debian folder there is a file
called install. I don't know how to actually get it to run.
You don't need to compile from source, dkms package is already in
the repository. Just install with apt
sudo apt install dkms
Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to acquire the dpkg
frontend lock (/var/lib/dpkg/lock-frontend), is another process using
Are you trying to use apt in a terminal window while synaptic or some
other package manager is open? That is the typical error message for
such a condition.
On a distro that computes updates immediately at boot, there
can be a conflict between the user trying to lock dpkg and
the system already having it locked. You just have to
wait until the other process is finished (or find the mother
and hammer it).
So there are at least three potential sources of conflict.
command line Apt
usage of synaptic package manager GUI
whatever the system is doing to compute updates, right after bootup
Wait until the above condition clears, and try again.
The process is unattended-upgrades...
Ok, I tried agina several hours later, and it all went well, dkms was
installed successfully.
I then ran the displaylink-driver file again and there were no errors
this time and installation was complete.
Is there something I have to do to get the actual displaylink to
work, ie show the desktop of a monitor when connected to the usb to
vga adaptor. I just tried it and there was no desktop, just a black
screen
The most useful command of the lot here
https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/asus-mb168b-driver-4175645315/
xrandr --listproviders
As that seems to reflect that a second provider is present, and
show the connector name. Then, when you look at less useful pages
like this one, things will make slightly more sense.
https://support.displaylink.com/knowledgebase/articles/675136-how-to-configure-displaylink-displays-on-ubuntu
Paul
The 2nd display is not showing up under hardware, devices, screen
Providers: number : 1
Provider 0: id: 0x45 cap: 0x9, Source Output, Sink Offload crtcs: 3
outputs: 3 associated providers: 0 name:modesetting
It doesn't look like the usb3 to vga adaptor is picking up the 2nd
monitor. Although it does appear as a 8mb volume.
Thanks
Some of the USB display devices, have been created as
"composite" devices, where a storage device containing
a Windows-only driver package is contained. The
8MB volume will be staged as a "fake CD drive" and
via an autorun.inf on the fake drive, the intention
is to cause a driver to be installed automatically
on Windows systems.

+------- Display part
|
USB <-----+ (composite)
|
+------- Storage part ("fake CD", data stored in flash)

Samsung made an LCD monitor which was based on
this mechanism (the LCD monitor plugged in via a
USB cable). I didn't think DisplayLink did that,
but it is a practical means to help naive users
(people who would not otherwise know how to
install a driver).

The DisplayLink installation you've done, won't
work if the device is some brand other than
DisplayLink. Have you used LSUSB to verify
the identity of the hardware ? The other reason
LSUSB is useful, is to prove the device is
even detected. The BIOS can be used to disable
USB ports, and you should verify the USB port works too.

Since you used DKMS, I would think you would need
one reboot after that point, before the module
installed via DKMS, would get loaded. The times I've
used DKMS, I think I did a reboot.

Paul
RobH
2019-11-02 12:19:38 UTC
Permalink
Post by Paul
Post by RobH
Post by Paul
Post by RobH
Post by Jonathan N. Little
Post by Paul
Post by Cybe R. Wizard
On Fri, 1 Nov 2019 23:06:45 +0000
Post by Jonathan N. Little
Post by RobH
Oops, my apologies, no dkms 2.3 was indeed not the file name. It
was just called 'install' inside a debian folder of dkms 2.3
I downloaded dkms 2.3 and in then debian folder there is a file
called install. I don't know how to actually get it to run.
You don't need to compile from source, dkms package is already in
the repository. Just install with apt
sudo apt install dkms
Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to acquire the dpkg
frontend lock (/var/lib/dpkg/lock-frontend), is another process using
Are you trying to use apt in a terminal window while synaptic or some
other package manager is open?  That is the typical error message for
such a condition.
On a distro that computes updates immediately at boot, there
can be a conflict between the user trying to lock dpkg and
the system already having it locked. You just have to
wait until the other process is finished (or find the mother
and hammer it).
So there are at least three potential sources of conflict.
command line Apt
usage of synaptic package manager GUI
whatever the system is doing to compute updates, right after bootup
Wait until the above condition clears, and try again.
The process is unattended-upgrades...
Ok, I tried agina several hours later, and it all went well, dkms
was installed successfully.
I then ran the displaylink-driver file again and there were no
errors this time and installation was complete.
Is there something I have to do to get the actual displaylink to
work, ie show the desktop of a monitor when connected to the usb to
vga adaptor.  I just tried it and there was no desktop, just a black
screen
The most useful command of the lot here
https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/asus-mb168b-driver-4175645315/
    xrandr --listproviders
As that seems to reflect that a second provider is present, and
show the connector name. Then, when you look at less useful pages
like this one, things will make slightly more sense.
https://support.displaylink.com/knowledgebase/articles/675136-how-to-configure-displaylink-displays-on-ubuntu
    Paul
The 2nd display is not showing up under hardware, devices, screen
Providers: number : 1
Provider 0: id: 0x45 cap: 0x9, Source Output, Sink Offload crtcs: 3
outputs: 3 associated providers: 0 name:modesetting
It doesn't look like the usb3 to vga adaptor is picking up the 2nd
monitor. Although it does appear as a 8mb volume.
Thanks
Some of the USB display devices, have been created as
"composite" devices, where a storage device containing
a Windows-only driver package is contained. The
8MB volume will be staged as a "fake CD drive" and
via an autorun.inf on the fake drive, the intention
is to cause a driver to be installed automatically
on Windows systems.
              +------- Display part
              |
    USB <-----+ (composite)
              |
              +------- Storage part ("fake CD", data stored in flash)
Samsung made an LCD monitor which was based on
this mechanism (the LCD monitor plugged in via a
USB cable). I didn't think DisplayLink did that,
but it is a practical means to help naive users
(people who would not otherwise know how to
install a driver).
The DisplayLink installation you've done, won't
work if the device is some brand other than
DisplayLink. Have you used LSUSB to verify
the identity of the hardware ? The other reason
LSUSB is useful, is to prove the device is
even detected. The BIOS can be used to disable
USB ports, and you should verify the USB port works too.
Since you used DKMS, I would think you would need
one reboot after that point, before the module
installed via DKMS, would get loaded. The times I've
used DKMS, I think I did a reboot.
   Paul
I couldn't find a usb to vga by DisplayLink, do they do them.

Output of lsusb:
***@rob-nuc:~$ lsusb
Bus 001 Device 002: ID 8087:8001 Intel Corp.
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 003 Device 004: ID 067b:2731 Prolific Technology, Inc.
Bus 003 Device 002: ID 2109:0813 VIA Labs, Inc.
Bus 003 Device 003: ID 174c:55aa ASMedia Technology Inc. ASM1051E SATA
6Gb/s bridge, ASM1053E SATA 6Gb/s bridge, ASM1153 SATA 3Gb/s bridge
Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub
Bus 002 Device 005: ID 8087:0a2a Intel Corp.
Bus 002 Device 007: ID 04d9:1603 Holtek Semiconductor, Inc. Keyboard
Bus 002 Device 006: ID 045e:0039 Microsoft Corp. IntelliMouse Optical
Bus 002 Device 004: ID 2109:2813 VIA Labs, Inc.
Bus 002 Device 023: ID 534d:6021
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
***@rob-nuc:~$

I have a Intel NUC with a spinning disk attatched by usb3 cable which
has ubuntu 18.03 on, then a 3 port usb3 hub for peripherals.
The monitor is connected by mini hdmi to vga adaptor.
Paul
2019-11-02 13:18:43 UTC
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On Fri, 1 Nov 2019 23:06:45 +0000
Post by Jonathan N. Little
Post by RobH
Oops, my apologies, no dkms 2.3 was indeed not the file name. It
was just called 'install' inside a debian folder of dkms 2.3
I downloaded dkms 2.3 and in then debian folder there is a file
called install. I don't know how to actually get it to run.
You don't need to compile from source, dkms package is already in
the repository. Just install with apt
sudo apt install dkms
Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to acquire the dpkg
frontend lock (/var/lib/dpkg/lock-frontend), is another process using
Are you trying to use apt in a terminal window while synaptic or some
other package manager is open? That is the typical error message for
such a condition.
On a distro that computes updates immediately at boot, there
can be a conflict between the user trying to lock dpkg and
the system already having it locked. You just have to
wait until the other process is finished (or find the mother
and hammer it).
So there are at least three potential sources of conflict.
command line Apt
usage of synaptic package manager GUI
whatever the system is doing to compute updates, right after bootup
Wait until the above condition clears, and try again.
The process is unattended-upgrades...
Ok, I tried agina several hours later, and it all went well, dkms
was installed successfully.
I then ran the displaylink-driver file again and there were no
errors this time and installation was complete.
Is there something I have to do to get the actual displaylink to
work, ie show the desktop of a monitor when connected to the usb to
vga adaptor. I just tried it and there was no desktop, just a
black screen
The most useful command of the lot here
https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/asus-mb168b-driver-4175645315/
xrandr --listproviders
As that seems to reflect that a second provider is present, and
show the connector name. Then, when you look at less useful pages
like this one, things will make slightly more sense.
https://support.displaylink.com/knowledgebase/articles/675136-how-to-configure-displaylink-displays-on-ubuntu
Paul
The 2nd display is not showing up under hardware, devices, screen
Providers: number : 1
Provider 0: id: 0x45 cap: 0x9, Source Output, Sink Offload crtcs: 3
outputs: 3 associated providers: 0 name:modesetting
It doesn't look like the usb3 to vga adaptor is picking up the 2nd
monitor. Although it does appear as a 8mb volume.
Thanks
Some of the USB display devices, have been created as
"composite" devices, where a storage device containing
a Windows-only driver package is contained. The
8MB volume will be staged as a "fake CD drive" and
via an autorun.inf on the fake drive, the intention
is to cause a driver to be installed automatically
on Windows systems.
+------- Display part
|
USB <-----+ (composite)
|
+------- Storage part ("fake CD", data stored in flash)
Samsung made an LCD monitor which was based on
this mechanism (the LCD monitor plugged in via a
USB cable). I didn't think DisplayLink did that,
but it is a practical means to help naive users
(people who would not otherwise know how to
install a driver).
The DisplayLink installation you've done, won't
work if the device is some brand other than
DisplayLink. Have you used LSUSB to verify
the identity of the hardware ? The other reason
LSUSB is useful, is to prove the device is
even detected. The BIOS can be used to disable
USB ports, and you should verify the USB port works too.
Since you used DKMS, I would think you would need
one reboot after that point, before the module
installed via DKMS, would get loaded. The times I've
used DKMS, I think I did a reboot.
Paul
I couldn't find a usb to vga by DisplayLink, do they do them.
Bus 001 Device 002: ID 8087:8001 Intel Corp.
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 003 Device 004: ID 067b:2731 Prolific Technology, Inc.
Bus 003 Device 002: ID 2109:0813 VIA Labs, Inc.
Bus 003 Device 003: ID 174c:55aa ASMedia Technology Inc. ASM1051E SATA
6Gb/s bridge, ASM1053E SATA 6Gb/s bridge, ASM1153 SATA 3Gb/s bridge
Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub
Bus 002 Device 005: ID 8087:0a2a Intel Corp.
Bus 002 Device 007: ID 04d9:1603 Holtek Semiconductor, Inc. Keyboard
Bus 002 Device 006: ID 045e:0039 Microsoft Corp. IntelliMouse Optical
Bus 002 Device 004: ID 2109:2813 VIA Labs, Inc.
Bus 002 Device 023: ID 534d:6021
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
I have a Intel NUC with a spinning disk attatched by usb3 cable which
has ubuntu 18.03 on, then a 3 port usb3 hub for peripherals.
The monitor is connected by mini hdmi to vga adaptor.
http://www.linux-usb.org/usb.ids

17e9 DisplayLink
0051 USB VGA Adaptor

But the usb.ids and pci.ids lists are missing a
lot of entries. The "17e9" part is something
you can bank on though.

The 17e9 can be seen in a picture here from the DisplayLink site.

https://support.displaylink.com/knowledgebase/articles/544834-my-displaylink-device-does-not-work-at-all-or-i-g

I can't find the 534d:6021. The 534d:0021 is a Macro Silicon
M2106 as an EasyCap video capture dongle.

I can't positively identify anything in your list as
a DisplayLink, or as a Fake DisplayLink.

Does the Prospective Device need a source of power,
or is it bus-powered ?

Paul
RobH
2019-11-02 14:52:23 UTC
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Post by Cybe R. Wizard
On Fri, 1 Nov 2019 23:06:45 +0000
Post by Jonathan N. Little
Post by RobH
Oops, my apologies, no dkms 2.3 was indeed not the file name. It
was just called 'install' inside a debian folder of dkms 2.3
I downloaded dkms 2.3 and in then debian folder there is a file
called install. I don't know how to actually get it to run.
You don't need to compile from source, dkms package is already in
the repository. Just install with apt
sudo apt install dkms
Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to acquire the dpkg
frontend lock (/var/lib/dpkg/lock-frontend), is another process using
Are you trying to use apt in a terminal window while synaptic or some
other package manager is open?  That is the typical error message for
such a condition.
On a distro that computes updates immediately at boot, there
can be a conflict between the user trying to lock dpkg and
the system already having it locked. You just have to
wait until the other process is finished (or find the mother
and hammer it).
So there are at least three potential sources of conflict.
command line Apt
usage of synaptic package manager GUI
whatever the system is doing to compute updates, right after bootup
Wait until the above condition clears, and try again.
The process is unattended-upgrades...
Ok, I tried agina several hours later, and it all went well, dkms
was installed successfully.
I then ran the displaylink-driver file again and there were no
errors this time and installation was complete.
Is there something I have to do to get the actual displaylink to
work, ie show the desktop of a monitor when connected to the usb
to vga adaptor.  I just tried it and there was no desktop, just a
black screen
The most useful command of the lot here
https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/asus-mb168b-driver-4175645315/
    xrandr --listproviders
As that seems to reflect that a second provider is present, and
show the connector name. Then, when you look at less useful pages
like this one, things will make slightly more sense.
https://support.displaylink.com/knowledgebase/articles/675136-how-to-configure-displaylink-displays-on-ubuntu
    Paul
The 2nd display is not showing up under hardware, devices, screen
Providers: number : 1
Provider 0: id: 0x45 cap: 0x9, Source Output, Sink Offload crtcs: 3
outputs: 3 associated providers: 0 name:modesetting
It doesn't look like the usb3 to vga adaptor is picking up the 2nd
monitor. Although it does appear as a 8mb volume.
Thanks
Some of the USB display devices, have been created as
"composite" devices, where a storage device containing
a Windows-only driver package is contained. The
8MB volume will be staged as a "fake CD drive" and
via an autorun.inf on the fake drive, the intention
is to cause a driver to be installed automatically
on Windows systems.
               +------- Display part
               |
     USB <-----+ (composite)
               |
               +------- Storage part ("fake CD", data stored in flash)
Samsung made an LCD monitor which was based on
this mechanism (the LCD monitor plugged in via a
USB cable). I didn't think DisplayLink did that,
but it is a practical means to help naive users
(people who would not otherwise know how to
install a driver).
The DisplayLink installation you've done, won't
work if the device is some brand other than
DisplayLink. Have you used LSUSB to verify
the identity of the hardware ? The other reason
LSUSB is useful, is to prove the device is
even detected. The BIOS can be used to disable
USB ports, and you should verify the USB port works too.
Since you used DKMS, I would think you would need
one reboot after that point, before the module
installed via DKMS, would get loaded. The times I've
used DKMS, I think I did a reboot.
    Paul
I couldn't find a usb to vga by DisplayLink, do they do them.
Bus 001 Device 002: ID 8087:8001 Intel Corp.
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 003 Device 004: ID 067b:2731 Prolific Technology, Inc.
Bus 003 Device 002: ID 2109:0813 VIA Labs, Inc.
Bus 003 Device 003: ID 174c:55aa ASMedia Technology Inc. ASM1051E SATA
6Gb/s bridge, ASM1053E SATA 6Gb/s bridge, ASM1153 SATA 3Gb/s bridge
Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub
Bus 002 Device 005: ID 8087:0a2a Intel Corp.
Bus 002 Device 007: ID 04d9:1603 Holtek Semiconductor, Inc. Keyboard
Bus 002 Device 006: ID 045e:0039 Microsoft Corp. IntelliMouse Optical
Bus 002 Device 004: ID 2109:2813 VIA Labs, Inc.
Bus 002 Device 023: ID 534d:6021
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
I have a Intel NUC with a spinning disk attatched by usb3 cable which
has ubuntu 18.03 on, then a 3 port usb3 hub for peripherals.
The monitor is connected by mini hdmi to vga adaptor.
http://www.linux-usb.org/usb.ids
17e9  DisplayLink
    0051  USB VGA Adaptor
But the usb.ids and pci.ids lists are missing a
lot of entries. The "17e9" part is something
you can bank on though.
The 17e9 can be seen in a picture here from the DisplayLink site.
https://support.displaylink.com/knowledgebase/articles/544834-my-displaylink-device-does-not-work-at-all-or-i-g
I can't find the 534d:6021. The 534d:0021 is a Macro Silicon
M2106 as an EasyCap video capture dongle.
I can't positively identify anything in your list as
a DisplayLink, or as a Fake DisplayLink.
Does the Prospective Device need a source of power,
or is it bus-powered ?
   Paul
The usb to vga device (if you mean that) must be bus powered as there is
no other source of of power.

The link for the 17e9 is for windows as you know and I do see the entry
for 17e9 in the device property window, and unfortunately that doesn't
apply to Ubuntu as far as I know.

Have I come to a dead end now.
Paul
2019-11-02 19:56:34 UTC
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On Fri, 1 Nov 2019 23:06:45 +0000
Post by Jonathan N. Little
Post by RobH
Oops, my apologies, no dkms 2.3 was indeed not the file name. It
was just called 'install' inside a debian folder of dkms 2.3
I downloaded dkms 2.3 and in then debian folder there is a file
called install. I don't know how to actually get it to run.
You don't need to compile from source, dkms package is already in
the repository. Just install with apt
sudo apt install dkms
Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to acquire the dpkg
frontend lock (/var/lib/dpkg/lock-frontend), is another process using
Are you trying to use apt in a terminal window while synaptic or some
other package manager is open? That is the typical error message for
such a condition.
On a distro that computes updates immediately at boot, there
can be a conflict between the user trying to lock dpkg and
the system already having it locked. You just have to
wait until the other process is finished (or find the mother
and hammer it).
So there are at least three potential sources of conflict.
command line Apt
usage of synaptic package manager GUI
whatever the system is doing to compute updates, right after bootup
Wait until the above condition clears, and try again.
The process is unattended-upgrades...
Ok, I tried agina several hours later, and it all went well, dkms
was installed successfully.
I then ran the displaylink-driver file again and there were no
errors this time and installation was complete.
Is there something I have to do to get the actual displaylink to
work, ie show the desktop of a monitor when connected to the usb
to vga adaptor. I just tried it and there was no desktop, just a
black screen
The most useful command of the lot here
https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/asus-mb168b-driver-4175645315/
xrandr --listproviders
As that seems to reflect that a second provider is present, and
show the connector name. Then, when you look at less useful pages
like this one, things will make slightly more sense.
https://support.displaylink.com/knowledgebase/articles/675136-how-to-configure-displaylink-displays-on-ubuntu
Paul
The 2nd display is not showing up under hardware, devices, screen
Providers: number : 1
Provider 0: id: 0x45 cap: 0x9, Source Output, Sink Offload crtcs: 3
outputs: 3 associated providers: 0 name:modesetting
It doesn't look like the usb3 to vga adaptor is picking up the 2nd
monitor. Although it does appear as a 8mb volume.
Thanks
Some of the USB display devices, have been created as
"composite" devices, where a storage device containing
a Windows-only driver package is contained. The
8MB volume will be staged as a "fake CD drive" and
via an autorun.inf on the fake drive, the intention
is to cause a driver to be installed automatically
on Windows systems.
+------- Display part
|
USB <-----+ (composite)
|
+------- Storage part ("fake CD", data stored in flash)
Samsung made an LCD monitor which was based on
this mechanism (the LCD monitor plugged in via a
USB cable). I didn't think DisplayLink did that,
but it is a practical means to help naive users
(people who would not otherwise know how to
install a driver).
The DisplayLink installation you've done, won't
work if the device is some brand other than
DisplayLink. Have you used LSUSB to verify
the identity of the hardware ? The other reason
LSUSB is useful, is to prove the device is
even detected. The BIOS can be used to disable
USB ports, and you should verify the USB port works too.
Since you used DKMS, I would think you would need
one reboot after that point, before the module
installed via DKMS, would get loaded. The times I've
used DKMS, I think I did a reboot.
Paul
I couldn't find a usb to vga by DisplayLink, do they do them.
Bus 001 Device 002: ID 8087:8001 Intel Corp.
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 003 Device 004: ID 067b:2731 Prolific Technology, Inc.
Bus 003 Device 002: ID 2109:0813 VIA Labs, Inc.
Bus 003 Device 003: ID 174c:55aa ASMedia Technology Inc. ASM1051E
SATA 6Gb/s bridge, ASM1053E SATA 6Gb/s bridge, ASM1153 SATA 3Gb/s bridge
Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub
Bus 002 Device 005: ID 8087:0a2a Intel Corp.
Bus 002 Device 007: ID 04d9:1603 Holtek Semiconductor, Inc. Keyboard
Bus 002 Device 006: ID 045e:0039 Microsoft Corp. IntelliMouse Optical
Bus 002 Device 004: ID 2109:2813 VIA Labs, Inc.
Bus 002 Device 023: ID 534d:6021
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
I have a Intel NUC with a spinning disk attatched by usb3 cable which
has ubuntu 18.03 on, then a 3 port usb3 hub for peripherals.
The monitor is connected by mini hdmi to vga adaptor.
http://www.linux-usb.org/usb.ids
17e9 DisplayLink
0051 USB VGA Adaptor
But the usb.ids and pci.ids lists are missing a
lot of entries. The "17e9" part is something
you can bank on though.
The 17e9 can be seen in a picture here from the DisplayLink site.
https://support.displaylink.com/knowledgebase/articles/544834-my-displaylink-device-does-not-work-at-all-or-i-g
I can't find the 534d:6021. The 534d:0021 is a Macro Silicon
M2106 as an EasyCap video capture dongle.
I can't positively identify anything in your list as
a DisplayLink, or as a Fake DisplayLink.
Does the Prospective Device need a source of power,
or is it bus-powered ?
Paul
The usb to vga device (if you mean that) must be bus powered as there is
no other source of of power.
The link for the 17e9 is for windows as you know and I do see the entry
for 17e9 in the device property window, and unfortunately that doesn't
apply to Ubuntu as far as I know.
Have I come to a dead end now.
Yes, sir, it *does* apply.

These are bus "Plug and Play" values, which *both* ecosystems use.

The "17E9" is important to both Windows and Linux,
and for the same reasons.

This is one reason we can switch ecosystems for testing,
to verify that hardware exists in one environment, then
come back to another environment and work with renewed vigor,
knowing the hardware works or is visible on a bus.

I regularly use the Linux hardware ID files, when working
on Windows problems. When you look in a Windows INF file,
values like 17e9 tell the INF file whether the driver
installer is "applicable" to the hardware or not. That's
how a DisplayLink driver for Windows, gets applied to
a DisplayLink hardware device.

Linux also checks for matches, to decide what to use.

If you know the device is showing "8MB storage", and
is demonstrating it is a Composite USB device, you
should be able to find it in LSUSB. It's got to be in
there, if it showed itself like that. That's a breadcrumb.

You can use "dmesg | grep -i someidentifier"
to search for hardware probing at system boot,
as another means to spot that certain kinds
of hardware are present. Have a look with
"dmesg | less" and see what's in the log right
now. I sometimes look at SATA device responses
in such outputs. But I can spot other things,
like Ubuntu not having firmware for my TV tuner
card (Hauppauge). I have to install the firmware
manually.

The DisplayLink could use firmware too. You never know.
See if "dmesg | grep -i firmware" is present.

Even without firmware, I would still be expecting
to see a 17e9:xxxx value. You can't bootstrap something,
without endpoints forming during initialization. And
exchanging config data comes right after that.

On Windows, you can use this:

https://www.uwe-sieber.de/usbtreeview_e.html

It will show the VID (17e9) and PID of each plugged
in item. The only limitation of the Windows tools, is
they don't actually display the entire USB tree.
If you have a tree of depth four or five, you
won't see the subtending devices - it's encouraged
to plug USB devices directly into the PC, when
using the TreeView thing.

Paul
RobH
2019-11-03 08:39:20 UTC
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On Fri, 1 Nov 2019 23:06:45 +0000
Post by Jonathan N. Little
Post by RobH
Oops, my apologies, no dkms 2.3 was indeed not the file name. It
was just called 'install' inside a debian folder of dkms 2.3
I downloaded dkms 2.3 and in then debian folder there is a file
called install. I don't know how to actually get it to run.
You don't need to compile from source, dkms package is already in
the repository. Just install with apt
sudo apt install dkms
Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to acquire the dpkg
frontend lock (/var/lib/dpkg/lock-frontend), is another process using
Are you trying to use apt in a terminal window while synaptic or some
other package manager is open?  That is the typical error message for
such a condition.
On a distro that computes updates immediately at boot, there
can be a conflict between the user trying to lock dpkg and
the system already having it locked. You just have to
wait until the other process is finished (or find the mother
and hammer it).
So there are at least three potential sources of conflict.
command line Apt
usage of synaptic package manager GUI
whatever the system is doing to compute updates, right after bootup
Wait until the above condition clears, and try again.
The process is unattended-upgrades...
Ok, I tried agina several hours later, and it all went well,
dkms was installed successfully.
I then ran the displaylink-driver file again and there were no
errors this time and installation was complete.
Is there something I have to do to get the actual displaylink to
work, ie show the desktop of a monitor when connected to the usb
to vga adaptor.  I just tried it and there was no desktop, just
a black screen
The most useful command of the lot here
https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/asus-mb168b-driver-4175645315/
    xrandr --listproviders
As that seems to reflect that a second provider is present, and
show the connector name. Then, when you look at less useful pages
like this one, things will make slightly more sense.
https://support.displaylink.com/knowledgebase/articles/675136-how-to-configure-displaylink-displays-on-ubuntu
    Paul
The 2nd display is not showing up under hardware, devices, screen
Providers: number : 1
3 outputs: 3 associated providers: 0 name:modesetting
It doesn't look like the usb3 to vga adaptor is picking up the 2nd
monitor. Although it does appear as a 8mb volume.
Thanks
Some of the USB display devices, have been created as
"composite" devices, where a storage device containing
a Windows-only driver package is contained. The
8MB volume will be staged as a "fake CD drive" and
via an autorun.inf on the fake drive, the intention
is to cause a driver to be installed automatically
on Windows systems.
               +------- Display part
               |
     USB <-----+ (composite)
               |
               +------- Storage part ("fake CD", data stored in flash)
Samsung made an LCD monitor which was based on
this mechanism (the LCD monitor plugged in via a
USB cable). I didn't think DisplayLink did that,
but it is a practical means to help naive users
(people who would not otherwise know how to
install a driver).
The DisplayLink installation you've done, won't
work if the device is some brand other than
DisplayLink. Have you used LSUSB to verify
the identity of the hardware ? The other reason
LSUSB is useful, is to prove the device is
even detected. The BIOS can be used to disable
USB ports, and you should verify the USB port works too.
Since you used DKMS, I would think you would need
one reboot after that point, before the module
installed via DKMS, would get loaded. The times I've
used DKMS, I think I did a reboot.
    Paul
I couldn't find a usb to vga by DisplayLink, do they do them.
Bus 001 Device 002: ID 8087:8001 Intel Corp.
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 003 Device 004: ID 067b:2731 Prolific Technology, Inc.
Bus 003 Device 002: ID 2109:0813 VIA Labs, Inc.
Bus 003 Device 003: ID 174c:55aa ASMedia Technology Inc. ASM1051E
SATA 6Gb/s bridge, ASM1053E SATA 6Gb/s bridge, ASM1153 SATA 3Gb/s bridge
Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub
Bus 002 Device 005: ID 8087:0a2a Intel Corp.
Bus 002 Device 007: ID 04d9:1603 Holtek Semiconductor, Inc. Keyboard
Bus 002 Device 006: ID 045e:0039 Microsoft Corp. IntelliMouse Optical
Bus 002 Device 004: ID 2109:2813 VIA Labs, Inc.
Bus 002 Device 023: ID 534d:6021
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
I have a Intel NUC with a spinning disk attatched by usb3 cable
which has ubuntu 18.03 on, then a 3 port usb3 hub for peripherals.
The monitor is connected by mini hdmi to vga adaptor.
http://www.linux-usb.org/usb.ids
17e9  DisplayLink
     0051  USB VGA Adaptor
But the usb.ids and pci.ids lists are missing a
lot of entries. The "17e9" part is something
you can bank on though.
The 17e9 can be seen in a picture here from the DisplayLink site.
https://support.displaylink.com/knowledgebase/articles/544834-my-displaylink-device-does-not-work-at-all-or-i-g
I can't find the 534d:6021. The 534d:0021 is a Macro Silicon
M2106 as an EasyCap video capture dongle.
I can't positively identify anything in your list as
a DisplayLink, or as a Fake DisplayLink.
Does the Prospective Device need a source of power,
or is it bus-powered ?
    Paul
The usb to vga device (if you mean that) must be bus powered as there
is no other source of of power.
The link for the 17e9 is for windows as you know and I do see the
entry for 17e9 in the device property window, and unfortunately that
doesn't apply to Ubuntu as far as I know.
Have I come to a dead end now.
Yes, sir, it *does* apply.
These are bus "Plug and Play" values, which *both* ecosystems use.
The "17E9" is important to both Windows and Linux,
and for the same reasons.
This is one reason we can switch ecosystems for testing,
to verify that hardware exists in one environment, then
come back to another environment and work with renewed vigor,
knowing the hardware works or is visible on a bus.
I regularly use the Linux hardware ID files, when working
on Windows problems. When you look in a Windows INF file,
values like 17e9 tell the INF file whether the driver
installer is "applicable" to the hardware or not. That's
how a DisplayLink driver for Windows, gets applied to
a DisplayLink hardware device.
Linux also checks for matches, to decide what to use.
If you know the device is showing "8MB storage", and
is demonstrating it is a Composite USB device, you
should be able to find it in LSUSB. It's got to be in
there, if it showed itself like that. That's a breadcrumb.
You can use "dmesg | grep -i someidentifier"
to search for hardware probing at system boot,
as another means to spot that certain kinds
of hardware are present. Have a look with
"dmesg | less" and see what's in the log right
now. I sometimes look at SATA device responses
in such outputs. But I can spot other things,
like Ubuntu not having firmware for my TV tuner
card (Hauppauge). I have to install the firmware
manually.
The DisplayLink could use firmware too. You never know.
See if "dmesg | grep -i firmware" is present.
Even without firmware, I would still be expecting
to see a 17e9:xxxx value. You can't bootstrap something,
without endpoints forming during initialization. And
exchanging config data comes right after that.
   https://www.uwe-sieber.de/usbtreeview_e.html
It will show the VID (17e9) and PID of each plugged
in item. The only limitation of the Windows tools, is
they don't actually display the entire USB tree.
If you have a tree of depth four or five, you
won't see the subtending devices - it's encouraged
to plug USB devices directly into the PC, when
using the TreeView thing.
   Paul
I tried DisplayLink on an old laptop with a windows7 drive in. The
software is installed, the service is running, but when I plug the usb3
to vga adaptor into a usb2 port with a monnitor attached. there is
nothing, just a black screen.

Looking on the DisplayLink site here:
https://www.displaylink.org/forum/showthread.php?t=896

it maybe that there are no usb3 ports on the laptop, but usb3 is
backward compatible.
Also there is no USB 3 host controller installed, so that could be a
reason as well.

The NUC has 3 usb3 ports, so I'm thinking about putting windows 7 on
that just to try and get display link working with the usb3 to vga
adaptor. It obviously doesn't work in Ubuntu so I've nothing to lose.

Thanks
Paul
2019-11-03 10:27:29 UTC
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On Fri, 1 Nov 2019 23:06:45 +0000
Post by Jonathan N. Little
Post by RobH
Oops, my apologies, no dkms 2.3 was indeed not the file
name. It
was just called 'install' inside a debian folder of dkms 2.3
I downloaded dkms 2.3 and in then debian folder there is a file
called install. I don't know how to actually get it to run.
You don't need to compile from source, dkms package is already in
the repository. Just install with apt
sudo apt install dkms
Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to acquire the dpkg
frontend lock (/var/lib/dpkg/lock-frontend), is another
process using
Are you trying to use apt in a terminal window while synaptic or some
other package manager is open? That is the typical error message for
such a condition.
On a distro that computes updates immediately at boot, there
can be a conflict between the user trying to lock dpkg and
the system already having it locked. You just have to
wait until the other process is finished (or find the mother
and hammer it).
So there are at least three potential sources of conflict.
command line Apt
usage of synaptic package manager GUI
whatever the system is doing to compute updates, right after bootup
Wait until the above condition clears, and try again.
The process is unattended-upgrades...
Ok, I tried agina several hours later, and it all went well,
dkms was installed successfully.
I then ran the displaylink-driver file again and there were no
errors this time and installation was complete.
Is there something I have to do to get the actual displaylink
to work, ie show the desktop of a monitor when connected to the
usb to vga adaptor. I just tried it and there was no desktop,
just a black screen
The most useful command of the lot here
https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/asus-mb168b-driver-4175645315/
xrandr --listproviders
As that seems to reflect that a second provider is present, and
show the connector name. Then, when you look at less useful pages
like this one, things will make slightly more sense.
https://support.displaylink.com/knowledgebase/articles/675136-how-to-configure-displaylink-displays-on-ubuntu
Paul
The 2nd display is not showing up under hardware, devices, screen
Providers: number : 1
3 outputs: 3 associated providers: 0 name:modesetting
It doesn't look like the usb3 to vga adaptor is picking up the
2nd monitor. Although it does appear as a 8mb volume.
Thanks
Some of the USB display devices, have been created as
"composite" devices, where a storage device containing
a Windows-only driver package is contained. The
8MB volume will be staged as a "fake CD drive" and
via an autorun.inf on the fake drive, the intention
is to cause a driver to be installed automatically
on Windows systems.
+------- Display part
|
USB <-----+ (composite)
|
+------- Storage part ("fake CD", data stored in flash)
Samsung made an LCD monitor which was based on
this mechanism (the LCD monitor plugged in via a
USB cable). I didn't think DisplayLink did that,
but it is a practical means to help naive users
(people who would not otherwise know how to
install a driver).
The DisplayLink installation you've done, won't
work if the device is some brand other than
DisplayLink. Have you used LSUSB to verify
the identity of the hardware ? The other reason
LSUSB is useful, is to prove the device is
even detected. The BIOS can be used to disable
USB ports, and you should verify the USB port works too.
Since you used DKMS, I would think you would need
one reboot after that point, before the module
installed via DKMS, would get loaded. The times I've
used DKMS, I think I did a reboot.
Paul
I couldn't find a usb to vga by DisplayLink, do they do them.
Bus 001 Device 002: ID 8087:8001 Intel Corp.
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 003 Device 004: ID 067b:2731 Prolific Technology, Inc.
Bus 003 Device 002: ID 2109:0813 VIA Labs, Inc.
Bus 003 Device 003: ID 174c:55aa ASMedia Technology Inc. ASM1051E
SATA 6Gb/s bridge, ASM1053E SATA 6Gb/s bridge, ASM1153 SATA 3Gb/s bridge
Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub
Bus 002 Device 005: ID 8087:0a2a Intel Corp.
Bus 002 Device 007: ID 04d9:1603 Holtek Semiconductor, Inc. Keyboard
Bus 002 Device 006: ID 045e:0039 Microsoft Corp. IntelliMouse Optical
Bus 002 Device 004: ID 2109:2813 VIA Labs, Inc.
Bus 002 Device 023: ID 534d:6021
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
I have a Intel NUC with a spinning disk attatched by usb3 cable
which has ubuntu 18.03 on, then a 3 port usb3 hub for peripherals.
The monitor is connected by mini hdmi to vga adaptor.
http://www.linux-usb.org/usb.ids
17e9 DisplayLink
0051 USB VGA Adaptor
But the usb.ids and pci.ids lists are missing a
lot of entries. The "17e9" part is something
you can bank on though.
The 17e9 can be seen in a picture here from the DisplayLink site.
https://support.displaylink.com/knowledgebase/articles/544834-my-displaylink-device-does-not-work-at-all-or-i-g
I can't find the 534d:6021. The 534d:0021 is a Macro Silicon
M2106 as an EasyCap video capture dongle.
I can't positively identify anything in your list as
a DisplayLink, or as a Fake DisplayLink.
Does the Prospective Device need a source of power,
or is it bus-powered ?
Paul
The usb to vga device (if you mean that) must be bus powered as there
is no other source of of power.
The link for the 17e9 is for windows as you know and I do see the
entry for 17e9 in the device property window, and unfortunately that
doesn't apply to Ubuntu as far as I know.
Have I come to a dead end now.
Yes, sir, it *does* apply.
These are bus "Plug and Play" values, which *both* ecosystems use.
The "17E9" is important to both Windows and Linux,
and for the same reasons.
This is one reason we can switch ecosystems for testing,
to verify that hardware exists in one environment, then
come back to another environment and work with renewed vigor,
knowing the hardware works or is visible on a bus.
I regularly use the Linux hardware ID files, when working
on Windows problems. When you look in a Windows INF file,
values like 17e9 tell the INF file whether the driver
installer is "applicable" to the hardware or not. That's
how a DisplayLink driver for Windows, gets applied to
a DisplayLink hardware device.
Linux also checks for matches, to decide what to use.
If you know the device is showing "8MB storage", and
is demonstrating it is a Composite USB device, you
should be able to find it in LSUSB. It's got to be in
there, if it showed itself like that. That's a breadcrumb.
You can use "dmesg | grep -i someidentifier"
to search for hardware probing at system boot,
as another means to spot that certain kinds
of hardware are present. Have a look with
"dmesg | less" and see what's in the log right
now. I sometimes look at SATA device responses
in such outputs. But I can spot other things,
like Ubuntu not having firmware for my TV tuner
card (Hauppauge). I have to install the firmware
manually.
The DisplayLink could use firmware too. You never know.
See if "dmesg | grep -i firmware" is present.
Even without firmware, I would still be expecting
to see a 17e9:xxxx value. You can't bootstrap something,
without endpoints forming during initialization. And
exchanging config data comes right after that.
https://www.uwe-sieber.de/usbtreeview_e.html
It will show the VID (17e9) and PID of each plugged
in item. The only limitation of the Windows tools, is
they don't actually display the entire USB tree.
If you have a tree of depth four or five, you
won't see the subtending devices - it's encouraged
to plug USB devices directly into the PC, when
using the TreeView thing.
Paul
I tried DisplayLink on an old laptop with a windows7 drive in. The
software is installed, the service is running, but when I plug the usb3
to vga adaptor into a usb2 port with a monnitor attached. there is
nothing, just a black screen.
https://www.displaylink.org/forum/showthread.php?t=896
it maybe that there are no usb3 ports on the laptop, but usb3 is
backward compatible.
Also there is no USB 3 host controller installed, so that could be a
reason as well.
The NUC has 3 usb3 ports, so I'm thinking about putting windows 7 on
that just to try and get display link working with the usb3 to vga
adaptor. It obviously doesn't work in Ubuntu so I've nothing to lose.
Thanks
The USB3 connector has nine electrical contacts.

Four of the contacts are standard USB2 ones: VBUS, D+, D-, GND

Five of the contacts are enhanced USB3 ones: TX+, TX-, GND, RX+, RX-

If a USB3 is plugged into a USB2 port, the first four touch.

If a USB3 is plugged into a USB3 port, all nine touch.

In that latter case, the connection negotiation can start
with the USB2 part. When the config info says "this baby
has got USB3 capabilities", the negotiation can then
switch from USB2 mode to USB3 mode, and will continue to use
the five USB3 contacts, until a bus reset causes the
negotiation process to be repeated (and it ends up
on USB3 again). The USB.org decided to not run the
two interfaces in parallel, for simplicity. It's
either "use the four pins" or "use the five pins"
at any point in time.

*******

To make USB3 work on Windows 7, you will need:

1) Proprietary (Intel?) driver to be installed to get
XHCI USB3 working. Windows 7 does not come with its
own USB3 drivers. Windows8/Windows10 come with their
own class drivers for this stuff.

2) Then, you'd install your DisplayLink software.

3) Using the USBTreeView, at some point you can verify
the VID and PID for the plugged in (DisplayLink) item.

Somehow, you have to find a way to make that thing
appear in a USB listing! Good luck.

While the Composite device design and the 8MB of storage
*could* provide (2) above, if the OS has been set up
defensively, the autorun.inf can be disabled from
working automatically. So it is possible to stop
the automation from working in (2), and then you'd
use some downloaded driver to finish (2) step. Or,
if a mini-CD came in the product box, you could use
that for (2). Whereas for (1), I would get the
CD or DVD out of the NUC box, which is where I
would expect the USB3 driver for the hub on the
NUC hardware to be hiding.

Paul
Adrian Caspersz
2019-11-03 18:10:57 UTC
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I have a Intel NUC with a spinning disk attatched by usb3 cable which
has ubuntu 18.03 on, then a 3 port usb3 hub for peripherals.
The monitor is connected by mini hdmi to vga adaptor.
Which NUC have you got, they normally have more than one video port?
Usually HDMI and something.
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RobH
2019-11-03 20:06:44 UTC
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Post by RobH
I have a Intel NUC with a spinning disk attatched by usb3 cable which
has ubuntu 18.03 on, then a 3 port usb3 hub for peripherals.
The monitor is connected by mini hdmi to vga adaptor.
Which NUC have you got, they normally have more than one video port?
Usually HDMI and something.
Oops sorry, it's a Intel NUC 55RYK with 1 mini hdmi port and a mini DP 1.2
Adrian Caspersz
2019-11-03 20:31:17 UTC
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Post by RobH
I have a Intel NUC with a spinning disk attatched by usb3 cable which
has ubuntu 18.03 on, then a 3 port usb3 hub for peripherals.
The monitor is connected by mini hdmi to vga adaptor.
Which NUC have you got, they normally have more than one video port?
Usually HDMI and something.
Oops sorry, it's a Intel NUC 55RYK with 1 mini hdmi port and a  mini DP 1.2
You can get cheap mini Display Port to VGA adaptors

e.g
https://www.ebay.co.uk/i/303274210824
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RobH
2019-11-03 20:37:11 UTC
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Post by Adrian Caspersz
Post by RobH
I have a Intel NUC with a spinning disk attatched by usb3 cable
which has ubuntu 18.03 on, then a 3 port usb3 hub for peripherals.
The monitor is connected by mini hdmi to vga adaptor.
Which NUC have you got, they normally have more than one video port?
Usually HDMI and something.
Oops sorry, it's a Intel NUC 55RYK with 1 mini hdmi port and a  mini DP 1.2
You can get cheap mini Display Port to VGA adaptors
e.g
https://www.ebay.co.uk/i/303274210824
I have ordered this one as it has the DisplayLink chipset, and by all
accounts should work on ubuntu.

I have already installed the required files for it on linux, so we'll
see how it goes.
Peter
2019-11-02 16:26:45 UTC
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Post by Cybe R. Wizard
On Fri, 1 Nov 2019 23:06:45 +0000
Post by Jonathan N. Little
Post by RobH
Oops, my apologies, no dkms 2.3 was indeed not the file name. It
was just called 'install' inside a debian folder of dkms 2.3
I downloaded dkms 2.3 and in then debian folder there is a file
called install. I don't know how to actually get it to run.
You don't need to compile from source, dkms package is already in
the repository. Just install with apt
sudo apt install dkms
Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to acquire the dpkg
frontend lock (/var/lib/dpkg/lock-frontend), is another process using
Are you trying to use apt in a terminal window while synaptic or some
other package manager is open? That is the typical error message for
such a condition.
Unattended upgrades process also does this.

Peter
Henry Crun
2019-10-31 13:52:34 UTC
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Is there any usb to vga adaptor which works under linux ubuntu.
There seems to be plenty for windows, but can;t find one for linux.
http://letmegooglethat.com/?q=usb+to+vga+adapter
for several hw solutions...
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RobH
2019-10-31 13:54:57 UTC
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Post by RobH
Is there any usb to vga adaptor which works under linux ubuntu.
There seems to be plenty for windows, but can;t find one for linux.
http://letmegooglethat.com/?q=usb+to+vga+adapter
for several hw solutions...
Do you think I haven't already tried that, that's why I asked for linux.
D***@decadence.org
2019-10-31 14:09:46 UTC
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Post by RobH
Is there any usb to vga adaptor which works under linux ubuntu.
There seems to be plenty for windows, but can;t find one for linux.
If it is a laptop, most already have a VGA out connector.
Now though, the newer models have HDMI out or are even going via USB-
C.

The tinner 'notebooks' usually don't have a lot of connections, and
USB-C is now the choice for those.

But one that works under Linux..

All the searches yield conversations that took place 2 or 3 years
ago.
Maybe we have come a ways since then. They appear to all state that
there is none.
RobH
2019-10-31 14:27:49 UTC
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Post by RobH
Is there any usb to vga adaptor which works under linux ubuntu.
There seems to be plenty for windows, but can;t find one for linux.
If it is a laptop, most already have a VGA out connector.
Now though, the newer models have HDMI out or are even going via USB-
C.
The tinner 'notebooks' usually don't have a lot of connections, and
USB-C is now the choice for those.
But one that works under Linux..
All the searches yield conversations that took place 2 or 3 years
ago.
Maybe we have come a ways since then. They appear to all state that
there is none.
Yes, that sounds about right. I did try the DisplayLink but I couldn't
get 2 of the drivers to install from a deb file, so that was that.
red floyd
2019-11-03 19:09:04 UTC
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Post by RobH
Is there any usb to vga adaptor which works under linux ubuntu.
There seems to be plenty for windows, but can;t find one for linux.
I've had success with the Dell DA-200. I successfully used it on an
XPS-13 9360.
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